EU power and control

Elegran setting aside the fact that he will vote Remain, what I think gives Professor Dugan's information credence is the fact that he is sharing what 1st and 2nd year law students are taught. He lays out the facts. I think this is too little too late though.

Quite Elegran
Which side of the argument, for instance, has been criticised by the independent UK Statistics Authority?
www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/eu-referendum-statistics-regulator-loses-patience-with-leave-campaign-over-350m-a-week-eu-cost-a7051756.html
We are represented in the EU parliament by 72 MEPs Pity, in my opinion, over 1/3 of them are UKIP and don't pull their weight in trying to improve the EU.
I feel that it is harder for powerful lobby groups to put pressure on MEPs than it is for them to pressure MPs (by buying fancy lunches or promising hefty party donations).
I really fear that workers rights will be decimated if we vote Leave because Priti Patel, employment minister has said that what she wants to do. And women will be the softest target - more part timers and temps for a start.

Have you watched any of it, obieone? He puts his cards on the table early on, then lays out very clearly the reasons why his twenty years of professional study has led him to that choice.

obieone This is the old "Have you stopped beating your wife?" question, isn't it? Either yes or no is a damning answer.

I have consistently and deliberately posted without pushing anyone else in either direction, merely encouraging everyone to consider the QUALITY and the ORIGIN and MOTIVES of what they are told by either camp. Sending off my postal vote has not altered that.

Have you watched it all Wilma?

I agree, watch Professor Michael Dougan from Liverpool Law School on the EU Referendum. A worthwhile 25 minutes that answers many questions about UK sovereignty and EU power.

Professor Michael Dougan on the EU Referendum

He shows what a bad job the Remain camp have done because the information he shares should be common knowledge by now (I voted Remain btw).

But we have discussed it all before, haven't we whitewave?

I havne't seen Brexit the movie, so I suppose I had better watch that.

Elegran. Something is bothering me. Am I right in thinking that you used to post positively about Brexit, then you sent off your postal vote, and now you post positively about remain?

Want to know the answer to the question? Watch the Professor Dougan lecture on the constitution.

Of course, *welshwife" ... but we haven't been told or shown what our money is spent on in Brussels, and "Brexit The Movie" shows us.

Watch Professor Michael Dougan on the UK and EU law. It absolutely spells out the correct and objective facts about our sovereignty and what our position is if we leave.

sparkle that question can also be asked of Members of Parliament !

Perhaps watch "Brexit The Movie" on Youtube. Have we chosen representatives that can be trusted? Just sayin'

"They" are not in faceless opposition to "us". "They" are a collection of other individual countries in the same group, each represented by human beings, just as we are represented by human beings we have elected to be there. It is much the same as at Westminster (or at the Welsh or Scottish assemblies)

Just as in all our dealings with others - within the family, at school, at work, in any organisation we are a part of - we discuss things and work out what is the best way forward.

We need to choose our representatives carefully, getting people who can be trusted to do their best for our interests, while not "doing down" the other members. We need to have accurate information sent to us frequently, to counter the myths that appear. We need to be adept at putting our own case.

In short, we need to realise that if we are a part of something, we have to TAKE part, not turn our backs and then whinge about being kept in the dark.

The same as it does now.

There is an enormous amount of lies and misunderstanding on this subject.

The EU operates a single market for all its businesses in all 28countries. In order for there to be level playing field for all its citizens/businesses it is agreed that certain laws need to be legislated for.

Legislation has therefore been enacted that takes effect in all 28 countries in order that business can operate fairly and effectively.

There is European wide agreement - dear to my own heart - that there are some issues like environmental that are much more effective if legislated for throughout the EU, like the clean air, clean water etc.

What the EU does not have, and never will have is power over the UKs domestic affairs. So our economic strategy, tax affairs, security, policing, welfare, pensions, criminal law, political life, and on and on is not affected a single jot.

Now this begs the question as to what happens if we come out of the single market.

If our businesses pressure for some sort of return and with 45% of our exports going to Europe, it is inevitable, what are the likely arrangements. My guess is that we will required by law to comply with EU legislation in order to trade. Of course then we will be unable to veto/ block anything we aren't keen on, so I would therefore argue our sovereignty will be totally compromised, with the EU holding all the balls.

First, you need to define who 'they' are. 'We' are part of 'them'.