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phoenix Fri 13-May-16 15:26:26

Afternoon all.

Sorting through my drawers wink and having a bit of a clear out, I found a ridiculous amount of (ahem) lingerie, which, sadly is very unlikely to be ever worn again.

I found myself saying to Mr P that I had more of a certain item than you could shake a stick at!

What an odd saying that is! Why should there be a finite number of things at which one can shake a stick? Plus, surely there are things at which shaking a stick would do no good at all.

I wonder how this phrase came about?

MaizieD Sat 14-May-16 13:44:06

The one I like is 'Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs', usually used sarcastically when some has said something blindingly obvious (why 'blindingly'?) as if it were a new and profound observation.

On our invariable damp and overcast 'holidays' at the British seaside my mother would declare that the sun would come out when there was "enough blue in the sky to make a pair of Dutchman's trousers". Oddly enough, she was often right...

LullyDully Sat 14-May-16 11:58:47

Just googled the shake a stick origin. Seems to be either related to counting with a stick or threatening with a stick/ spear.

On a trip to The Victory in Portsmouth I was amazed with how many expressions come from old naval times on sailing ships.

sunseeker Sat 14-May-16 10:08:02

Someone once told me that "too many to shake a stick at" related to there being too many of the enemy to throw a spear at, he was an ex soldier so perhaps that was just the way his mind worked!!

When my mother got annoyed she would say "Ye Gods and little fishes" - I think it was her form of swearing

One of my DH's favourites was "I didn't come up the Avon on a push bike" meaning I'm not an idiot (for those who don't know the Avon is a river!).

Auntieflo Sat 14-May-16 09:51:23

Heard the expression, "it's a bit black over Will's mother" , meaning, I think confused , that the weather looks dodgy. hmm

PRINTMISS Sat 14-May-16 09:05:42

And in our family "Going to see a man about a dog". Whenever someone was going out suddenly.

Jayh Sat 14-May-16 04:01:02

Thank you Sue for the explanation for the Buffs. I had no idea.

SueDonim Sat 14-May-16 02:29:02

My dh acquired the 'shake a stick' expression when he was in the Royal Navy, along with many other expressions.

My father was in the Buffs during WW2. They were an East Kent regiment and so-called due to their one-time buff-coloured uniforms. The expression came from an order to keep discipline on the parade ground by an adjutant. Kipling used it in one of his stories.

One reply my grandfather would give if I asked him where he was going was to say he was going to see about 'a wigwam for a horse's bridle'. I have no idea what that means!

durhamjen Sat 14-May-16 01:21:55

Reading the weather forecast with my grandson it said there could be the odd shower.
He wanted to know what an odd shower was, and why it was odd.

Jalima Fri 13-May-16 21:04:33

"Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs"
Why? would that help?

"Has the cat got your tongue?"

"He tried to butter me up" confused

and
"He's kicked the bucket"

annodomini Fri 13-May-16 20:55:08

When someone says, 'Bear with me,' I am always tempted to say, 'where?'

Jayh Fri 13-May-16 20:46:14

Suzy Dent from Countdown has published a number of books on the origins of words and sayings.
Our family saying is ' Steady the buffs'. ?

Ana Fri 13-May-16 20:06:30

Our family saying was 'It's black over Bill's mother's' Never knew who she was either!

BBbevan Fri 13-May-16 19:59:18

When it looked like rain and the sky was heavy with clouds , my friend would say " It's dark over Aunt Maud 's". Who was she ?

Grannyknot Fri 13-May-16 18:57:04

I've just thought of another odd saying: "She waited on him hand and foot". I've never heard it said starting with "He ..."

Newquay Fri 13-May-16 17:39:57

Just read this thread and read the definition in Urban Dictionary-well, better be careful where we say that then! Lol!

wot Fri 13-May-16 17:25:52

I like to think of a bear standing next to the person saying bear with me!

Greyduster Fri 13-May-16 17:24:34

It is to do with the old practice of counting sheep with a stick (apparently). Presumably, if you had a very large flock, you often had more than you could "shake a stick at"! (Or you fell asleep before you had finished shaking your stick at them!). It is an expression I am apt to use on more than a few occasions but I have never wondered, until now, where it came from!

phoenix Fri 13-May-16 17:23:33

Oh heavens, I remember Sunday afternoon walks with my Grandparents, being told we were going to walk as far as the Green Dragon and then walk back (I was terrified, didn't know it was a pub!)

Even worse was the walk to the Wyche Cutting, which is a place in my beloved Malvern Hills, but I thought it was the "witch cutting" imagining some old crone with large scissors!

We seem to have wandered from "shaking a stick at"
grin

kittylester Fri 13-May-16 17:19:27

I found the book but the saying wasn't there!!

We often couldn't go anywhere because my Nan had a bone in her leg!!

trisher Fri 13-May-16 17:10:56

We got that one when I was little. Why was no-one ever prepared to say where they were really going? it was always"To see a man about a dog." "Back of Bill's mother's to see Mary" or "There and back etc"

numberplease Fri 13-May-16 16:54:54

We took the kids for a walk one sunny Sunday afternoon, to look at a pub we`d been told about that accepted children. When asked where we were going, we told them "there and back to see how far it is." When they went to school the following day, eldest son, aged 5, told the teacher they`d been out for a walk, when she asked where, he said "there and back to see how far it is!"

Teetime Fri 13-May-16 16:47:54

Oh I've definitely heard and used the 'stick' saying. My mother was full of odd sayings but they go out of your head when you try to think of them. She was fond of wanting 'to give me something to cry for' and to 'make me laugh on the other side of my face'. If I pulled a face undoubtedly 'the wind will change and you'll stay like that'.

If my father was asked by us where he was going it was always ' up Aldgate Pump to get a bike out' and my Aunties reply would be ' up arse****s corner to hear the band play' she was rather earthy but lovely. smile

Lots more!!!! grin

kittylester Fri 13-May-16 16:41:40

I'm with lucky but haven't looked at the modern meaning I used to here it when I was young and it seems to have reappeared lately.

Just remembered, DS1 bought me a book about the origin of sayings. I try to find it.

ninathenana Fri 13-May-16 16:32:52

I've always thought it's origin was as Luckygirl described. I've certainly never thought of it having a 'saucy' meaning

Grannyknot Fri 13-May-16 16:29:49

I know Galen but it is the way it is said, and there's hardly a burden involved usually!