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"Modern mums have lost the plot"

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NotTooOld Wed 27-Apr-16 22:30:25

Rachel Waddilove sounds like a sensible person to me. Tin gods are a nightmare.

Indinana Wed 27-Apr-16 21:29:41

My DD has a big buggy - a wheel base with two tops: a carry cot/pram and a buggy/pushchair. The pram top was for when the baby was young, but as she grew, and liked to sit up and see the world, the buggy top was used. Either combo, with pram or pushchair top, is nothing like as big as the coach built prams we had for our children!
She is a single mum who doesn't drive, so she does a lot of walking with her baby and dog, frequently walking the two miles to our house. A small fold-up buggy, with flimsy plastic wheels, would last no time at all, and would be an uncomfortable ride for the baby on long walks. So she has no choice, really. She has to have a buggy that is strong, with suspension and large rubber tyred wheels, that will hopefully last the 2-3 years that she will need it. She cannot afford to keep replacing it.
And as she lives in a tiny house, where every inch of space is needed for the essentials of living, she quite literally does not have the room to keep an additional, lightweight buggy for bus journeys! And yes, she has been upset on more than one occasion when told there's no room for her buggy unless folded. Impossible to hold a wriggling 10 month old, and a heavy shopping bag, while trying to fold and manhandle a large buggy onto the bus - and there's never any move on the part of the driver to help her! So she knows that if the spaces for buggies are all taken, then there's nothing she can do but wait for the next bus. Sometimes in the pouring rain and with a baby who needs feeding, and a dog waiting at home that probably needs to go in the garden.
So I do have some sympathy for your neighbour's rant Grannyknot. It really isn't easy if you don't have a car these days.

pompa Wed 27-Apr-16 21:04:22

I am truly amazed that our two children survived our childcare.

Jalima Wed 27-Apr-16 20:39:11

It's a wonder mankind (and womankind) has survived!

Iam64 Wed 27-Apr-16 20:33:43

I'm surrounded by young mothers and their babies currently as well and enjoying it. I suspect most young mothers are like the ones I know, doing much as mothers have done since the beginning of time - the best they can. There is so much conflicting but definite advice for young mothers, I'm relieved I'm not one of them . Breast feed to 6 months, don't give formal, don't start solids - it's the law
Never ever co sleep, or swaddle your baby or the baby will be high risk of cot death - it's another law
Don't use disposable nappies because you'll wreck the environment
From the period when you're hoping to get pregnant until your baby is 18 (I exaggerate) never drink caffeine or alcohol, don't each soft cheese, more than one portion of tuna a week etc etc etc
Never leave your baby to cry itself to sleep
Always leave your baby to cry itself to sleep
Never have the baby sleep in your room
Always etc you get the picture.

I am not dismissing the need for safe sleeping or for sensible feeding/routines etc. The telegraph article is ok and the nanny who is its focus sounds smashing but honestly, I dislike the way successive generations tend to sneer at or look down on young mothers. those of us who were blessed with children have been young ,first time mothers. Have we forgotten how hard it was at times and was a steep learning curve. I haven't.

Jalima Wed 27-Apr-16 20:28:53

They rule the world!

They are mothers!

However, I walked with my large Silver Cross pram and used a folded up McLaren buggy on the bus. In those days we knew our place.

granjura Wed 27-Apr-16 20:16:42

Yep- and ahve you seen the size of buggies these days!?!

Grannyknot Wed 27-Apr-16 19:50:04

This article is refreshing - (I am surrounded by first time mothers in my life at present). My young neighbour had a melt-down rant to me the other day about the temerity of the bus driver who wouldn't let her get on the bus unless she folded her pushchair (the bus was full). Another friend who runs a cafe says she dreads the "buggy brigade" coming in en masse because they're "quite demanding"...

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/family/celebrity-maternity-nurse-modern-mothers-have-lost-the-plot/