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obieone Mon 25-Apr-16 06:46:17

This subject has come up again on another thread.

What is wrong with little Englander? Or big Englander. Or little Welsher. Or big Welsher? Or little Scotlander? Or big scotlander. Or little Northern Irelander? Or big Northere Irelander? Or little Rep of Irelander? Or big Republic of Irelander?

Or little any other nation on earth? Or big any other nation on earth?

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 22:37:28

Thank you fir the explanation thatbags

thatbags Tue 26-Apr-16 22:33:55

I was economising with iPad sweeps to get dashes, actually, ab. Typing them on an iPad is harder/slower than typing spaces smile.

Yes. Really. That simple.

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 22:32:14

Big sigh Ana, tired?

thatbags Tue 26-Apr-16 22:32:06

The post does NOT say Welsh plot, ab. Those two words are juxtaposed but as written they do NOT, repeat NOT mean or say Welsh plot, nor were they ever meant to.

Ana Tue 26-Apr-16 22:30:37

Sigh...

Bellanonna Tue 26-Apr-16 22:30:19

ab. What she's saying is that it's not a plot to be nasty to the Welsh.

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 22:28:40

Un,ike you to be concerned with economising with your words thatbags

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 22:26:28

No Ana, the post says Welsh plot

thatbags Tue 26-Apr-16 22:26:15

In her defence, ana, I could (even thought about it) have made it a bit clearer, like this: a let's-be-nasty-to-the-Welsh plot.

But that takes longer so I didn't. False economy, huh?

thatbags Tue 26-Apr-16 22:24:26

Is it more expensive to go by the Severn Bridge or to take a longer route that has no tolls? Just wondering. I guess it must save on time for some journeys, and possibly also on fuel and car wear and tear. In the long run, if one has to do the journey a lot I wonder if it works out cheaper or more expensive.

Ana Tue 26-Apr-16 22:20:17

English plot, Anniebach - blimey, you don't half misinterpret posts! hmm

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 22:18:36

What Welsh plot thatbags?

Granny23 Tue 26-Apr-16 22:16:41

No Toll charges on any of the bridges in Scotland now as the Scottish Government abolished them.

thatbags Tue 26-Apr-16 22:16:06

So people who want to travel between England and Wales on that particular road in the England-Wales direction have to pay.

I think there are one way payments in other places as well and that it's not a let's be nasty to the Welsh plot.

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 22:15:01

Naturally Caesan . Just that at this time we have a Tory government and I thought best to explain it was not the Senydd which sets the charges

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 22:11:46

So if the English want to visit Wales they have to pay, if the Welsh want to come home they have to pay

Welshwife Tue 26-Apr-16 22:04:38

I can remember the Severn Brudge being 50p each way - but as the toll is only one way it is half the price really as most people use it both ways.

thatbags Tue 26-Apr-16 22:01:51

There seem to be quite a lot of tolls charged on river and estuary crossings (bridges and tunnels), probably because they are very expensive to build and maintain.

granjura Tue 26-Apr-16 21:59:13

Dartford is 2.50 each way.

thatbags Tue 26-Apr-16 21:58:10

It's a long time since I've been on the tolled part of the M6, so long in fact that I don't even know if there is still a toll on it. I always though that tolls meant that the people who used a particular bit of road (or a bridge) helped pay for its upkeep if not for its construction.

Think I'll wander off googlewards and looke up other tolls in the UK.

Ceesnan Tue 26-Apr-16 21:51:51

Surely the toll is set by whichever party is in power when the prices are reviewed?

Anniebach Tue 26-Apr-16 21:32:59

The toll costs are set by the Tory government not by the Senydd

Jalima Tue 26-Apr-16 21:27:55

it was 20p each way, now is £6.60 (one way)!

Welshwife Tue 26-Apr-16 21:24:24

The Severn Bridge toll was imposed to recoup the cost of building. It was cheaper having less pay booths so a double fee is just paid one way. I

Jalima Tue 26-Apr-16 21:08:01

And some worry about bananas and cucumber
I did worry about bananas when I talked to some Madeirans who had lost their livelihood.
But that was another thread grin

Perhaps the English should be proud like the Australians:

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