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Juggernaut Fri 08-Apr-16 11:19:57

A house like ours would, in some areas of London, be worth close to a million, but we're in the north west, so it isn't!

Nonnie Fri 08-Apr-16 11:06:22

I think it you live in or near London it is quite easy to be a millionaire simply because a 3 bedroom semi could well be worth that. Elsewhere it is a different matter. A lot of my friends have inherited from their parents and been very careful with their money too.

Why is a million such an important figure anyway?

I feel that it is time someone stood up for those who have worked really hard and been careful, never claimed from the state, had holidays, cars etc. they could afford and provided for their retirement. Before anyone rants at me and says I am privileged, that is not so. DH comes from a council house and parents who had very little education, my father didn't believe in educating girls. We paid for our own wedding and everything since. We have worked extremely hard for what we have and have gone without a lot which some consider essential. Now we have a reasonably comfortable retirement and are able to help our children. Why is it I sometimes feel that I need to apologise for this?

newnana Fri 08-Apr-16 10:34:26

Just read that this report is in daily mail. I suppose it is time to gave a go at wealthy pensioners again. I'm happy to take a turn to stop this appalling newspaper having yet another go at the nhs or junior doctors or teachers. I hate the Daily Mail with a passion!

Charleygirl Fri 08-Apr-16 10:30:55

mollie I think that my friend, when the time comes and it is necessary, that she will have live in carers rather than go to a care/nursing home. Live in carers will cost a fair bit but she has the dosh. She lives in Hertfordshire, is 72 and as fit as anything but I have never understood why she never had a downstairs loo fitted. She may well be able to run up and downstairs now but why not think of the future?

mollie Fri 08-Apr-16 10:23:21

Mmm, interesting Charleygirl - all that money and she pays 20% tax? We only have our mortgaged house (valued at local average, nothing exceptional) and his annual salary which means he's just tipped into paying higher rate tax of 40%+. Those who have most always have means and ways to avoid paying more... Never mind, we can't take it with us...

Galen Fri 08-Apr-16 10:13:10

Your cat charges fees?

Charleygirl Fri 08-Apr-16 09:54:14

I have one friend who has inherited a fair amount of money and property over many years and she has looked after everything - buying stocks and shares or whatever. Like me she pays tax at 20% but I would class her as a millionaire and that is without considering the worth of the house in which she is living.

I live in London so my house price is over inflated but that does not pay the gas bill or the cat fees.

pompa Fri 08-Apr-16 09:31:46

Being a millionaire, or whatever your assets are worth, makes no difference to ones disposable income, that is what makes day to day living a pleasure or nightmare.

Maggiemaybe Fri 08-Apr-16 09:24:07

Are these the ones registered in Panama, Teetime? They probably don't count.

Teetime Fri 08-Apr-16 09:21:13

I suppose if you insist on counting my oil wells as personal wealth they aren't really they belong to the company.grin

Maggiemaybe Fri 08-Apr-16 09:19:07

If this is the report

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696632/March-millionaire-pensioners-strike-rich-property-boom-One-ten-65s-worth-seven-figures.html

It also states that 12% of pensioner households have total wealth of less than £40,000. I love the way the DM has chosen to illustrate their report of the report (March of the Millionaire Pensioners grin) with a picture of a very worried oldie wondering how to spend her millions.

annsixty Fri 08-Apr-16 09:00:17

I agree and the adding in of things most people don't consider, just adds fuel to the fire of those who criticise Pensioners. Paper wealth does not pay the bills. "One in six is a millionaire" infuriates younger people and isn't accurate. Far from it.

Maggiemaybe Fri 08-Apr-16 08:59:07

Well, average house prices here are under £150,000, so it would take possessions worth £850,000 to make the average local a millionaire. That's a lot of jewellery. Or buy to let properties, which I suspect are what have made my few rich acquaintances rich.

mollie Fri 08-Apr-16 08:48:33

I don't believe statistics as they are generally presented. They only tell part of the story. I agree that my older family members now are better off than those who were ancient when I was much, much younger. But aren't we all? Property accounts for a huge chunk of anyone's wealth but it's only on paper, we all need somewhere to live. These 'bits' of the picture are annoying and one sided IMHO.

PRINTMISS Fri 08-Apr-16 08:16:08

I think there are probably more wealthy people around now, than there once was. There are so many "lotteries" now which make people instant millionaires, and certainly some of the homes that were bought in the 50/60 are now worth far more than was paid for them, which makes the owners wealthy, I suppose. Having said that there are a great many people who are still poor, and live from hand to mouth. Perhaps things are not so different now, just more open, and the population is growing so there is bound to be more of everything.

pompa Fri 08-Apr-16 08:15:48

I don't doubt these figures, if they take in the total assets, house, savings, car, furniture, jewellery, tools, ukuleles, etc.
Most of us don't add in all our assets and with with average house being 200-500k, it doesn't take much to top 1m.
If I think about my friends, there are several that may well be millionaires.

Jane10 Fri 08-Apr-16 08:05:10

Well as you all know I'm super rich. I'm emailing this in from one of my castles in Monte Carlo (well one has to do something with one's dosh and I'm a bit sick of the estate in Panama).
On no, just realised that's all lies -or statistics as they're sometimes called! grin

annsixty Fri 08-Apr-16 07:59:52

A report from the ONS ( Office of National Statistics) out recently states that one in six of over 65's is a millionaire. A director of Age UK says around half of over 65's have incomes too low to pay tax. So do we all live in very large houses or have jewellery, art ,etc in bank safes and live relatively frugal lives?
Statistics can tell very strange tales.