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house-selling/buying scam?

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M0nica Thu 07-Apr-16 13:01:42

Some people try it on, full stop. You do not need to be gullible for this to happen to you. Sometimes there is a genuine reason for reducing an offer after survey because it reveals problems that need to be sorted and cost money, but others push their luck.

When we sold DF house, the CH boiler was about 7 years old. The buyer tried to get a reduction on the basis as the boiler was a free-standing boiler with a normal flue rather than the, nowadays, standard balanced flue, this made the boiler dangerous . They wanted a reduction of £10,000. We told them politely where to go.

Nonnie Thu 07-Apr-16 11:00:37

I think the info must have come via one of the agents. Although most of us know that all contact should be through the agents not all sellers and purchasers seem to.

DS is in the process of selling his house and one man kept coming to his door and leaving his card if DS was not in. He insisted he wanted to buy the house and offered a good price but it transpired he was known by the agent and had offered on several houses but not proceeded to purchase. The person buying it at the moment has also made personal contact, trying to get a reduction after the surveyor said the gutters needed cleaning and there was not enough insulation in the loft. Some people simply try it on and think individuals are more gullible than the agents.

MamaCaz Thu 07-Apr-16 10:48:35

The more I think about it, the more I think it could have been innocent.
The agents who arranged the viewing are a large, well-known company with offices all over, and presumably they share info.between offices via their computer systems. In fact, the two viewings my parents did last week were by different - though geographically close - offices of the same estate agents. Perhaps another branch in the region wanted to get in on the act too. Nevertheless, none of us will be volunteering any info to unidentifiable cold callers, and especially not ones with a very strong foreign accent!

If I find out anything definite, I'll let you all know smile

M0nica Thu 07-Apr-16 08:15:46

I would say it had to be leaked through someone working at the estate agents, That is not the same as saying the estate agency was responsible.

A staff member may have a scam going on on the quiet where they pass info on to a developer who tries to buy houses at knock down prices from people on the move who may either be unused to the procedure or trying to move fast because they have found a house that they want to buy.

Envious Thu 07-Apr-16 00:26:27

Some agents in the U.S. Have you sign a sheet when you walk in to view a house. They ask for name, email,phone and name of your agent. It's not mandatory but they prefer you fill it out. Maybe it got in the wrong hands?

MamaCaz Wed 06-Apr-16 19:34:00

J52: That did cross my mind too, but I doubt that they would be able to get hold of my parents' phone number even if they wanted to.

Maybe there will turn out to be a perfectly innocent explanation, but so far I don't have a clue what it could be!

J52 Wed 06-Apr-16 19:16:40

Could it come from someone who's house you viewed? Although I can't think why they would contact you.

x

annsixty Wed 06-Apr-16 19:06:30

The information had to come from someone involved in selling or buying . There is no other explanation.

phoenix Wed 06-Apr-16 18:46:16

Ooh er! Perhaps ask the same questions to the estate agent? It will be interesting to hear their response.

MamaCaz Wed 06-Apr-16 18:40:56

My parents put their house on the market very recently. Last weekend they viewed a couple of properties that might suit them. Today they had a phone call from what my mum describes as "a man with a foreign accent", claiming to be from the estate agents responsible for the properties they viewed, asking how far they had got in their search/purchase of a property. More worryingly, the person knew that I (their daughter) was involved in the search too! Not being too naïve, my dad told the person that if they had any questions, they should speak to the estate agent (or words to that effect), and gave no info whatsoever.
My dad later phoned said agent later to see what they knew and, as expected, they knew nothing and no one had phoned them.

Clearly, we all assume this is some kind of (phishing???) scam, but are puzzled about where the would-be scammer got the information. How could they possibly have known about my involvement in the search for a house, or even which agent had arranged the viewings, which isn't the one that's trying to sell my parents' house? And what, unless it was just a preliminary 'grooming' call, prior to trying to get personal financial details out of my parents, could they have hoped to gain?

It's all a bit confusing and slightly worrying!