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Anniebach Sun 10-Jan-16 17:32:08

Yes the enemy do carry out war crimes and we are angry when we read of them, either we accept guilt on both sides or we dismiss war crimes on both sides

NanaandGrampy Sun 10-Jan-16 16:40:58

well said Jackthelad.

I totally agree that until you have been in that situation you cannot truly understand war and make no bones about it these are not 'conflicts' we send our men and women to but wars !

I served my time in the army in the 70's and at that stage women weren't armed but as a policewoman they gave me a truncheon ...mighty handy against a kalashnikov rifle at great distance !!

I agree that war crimes cannot go unpunished but I also heartily disagree with the £5million I think it was that the government put aside to let foreign nationals get legal aid to sue our soldiers.

Id better get off my high horse now...its chilly up here grin

rosesarered Sun 10-Jan-16 16:20:00

The trouble is, that the enemy DO carry out war crimes.
I think the Army can differentiate between genuine fear/ stress related stuff and things done for the hell of it, or revenge.

Anniebach Sun 10-Jan-16 12:18:48

This is so difficult , our service men and women must be supported but we cannot dismiss war crimes . The soldier who shot and killed an injured prisoner did commit a war crime , he was in no danger , jail

If we claim they are under stress - which they must be - we must also allow the enemy to carry out war crimes and not criticise them

Lona Sun 10-Jan-16 12:03:33

I agree totally! Our service personnel are very poorly treated.

ninathenana Sun 10-Jan-16 11:50:48

Here, here !

Jackthelad Sun 10-Jan-16 11:07:25

When the time came I went off to do my national service, reluctantly, but knowing it had to be done. In todays political climate I feel very strongly I would rather take what ever punishment than don the Queens uniform. To be a member of the armed services means you are trained to kill. In doing your duty in defence of your nation today should it be your misfortune to have to take life the purpose for which your county trained you, you stand grave danger of being persecuted through courts for just doing what you were sent out to do. The rules of engagement are all very fine, but when in a fire fight, fear and self preservation are upper most in your mind, not the rule book. Politicians are good at sending out soldiers to take care of them by doing their dirty work, but equally good at washing their hands of them when they have served their purpose and pretending they had nothing to do with it should it go wrong anyway. This Prosecution of our service men must stop. Until you have been under fire with little or no protection you will never fully understand.