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tingaloo Sat 21-Nov-15 06:06:00

I have managed to get some sleep. My poor man is curled up like a foetus clutching onto my hand. I am really going to have to kick up a stink to get us both the help we need, aren't I? Oh gosh, I hate a fuss. In the short term (very short term), I am going to have to go home at some point today to feed the cat and take my medication.I hope he won't kick off again when I go. Thank you everyone for your replies. It has meant a lot to know there is someone out there to listen to me and give advice.

Cherrytree59 Sat 21-Nov-15 01:57:59

hi there feel for you both. I have been in very similar situation as you with my father.
Glad he has had Oramorph they also gave my dad an antidepressant which helped to calm him.
Ask for a meeting Monday with yourself [and a friend for support if possible] and the Drs, social services and any other health carer involved.
Dont hold back tell them everything!
Ask for NHS funding assessment due to his dementia and behaviour.
My advice would be Not to have you DH home before any assessment has been done. They cant send him home to an empty house, so if need be say you are exhausted and going to stay with a friend or family.
you are his carer so you are allowed respite, ask social worker to help you with this.
age concern will help if you need it. they will explain NHS funding and let you know about other bodies that can help you both.
best of luck!

boheminan Sat 21-Nov-15 01:35:35

You sound a little more positivesmile and it's good you have a plan to put into action. A cuppa brew and a foot stall is a little comfort for you on this long night.

There's others here who will be popping in overnight to chat to you...

Eloethan Sat 21-Nov-15 01:32:31

tingaloo I can't offer any more advice than the good advice that posters have already given you.

I hope that the Admiral nurse can help you in getting proper support in this very distressing situation.

My thoughts - and I'm sure those of all who have read your original post - are with you.

tingaloo Sat 21-Nov-15 01:24:17

Thank you so much everyone for your kind words and support. I will be pushing for some psychiatric help for him tomorrow (help, it's Saturday, only skeleton, very junior staff). He is becoming more agitated again, thinking that we will be killed by morning if we don't get out of here, and is in a lot of pain in his chest (new pain, is it a result of being restrained, or could it be in his oesophagus, he hadp km lomk a tear there once before). Anyway, they have given him a dose of oramorph which he has at home to control breathlessness. I am hoping this will calm him as well as ease the pain. He was very wary of being administered it by the male nurse who he thinks is out to kill him, but accepted it from a female nurse. I will definitely ask to see the consultant on Monday, and will also be contacting my Admiral nurse to see if he can advocate for us. I have been given tea and a footstool, so am relatively comfortable. I have just remembered that I didn't take my own medication (thyroid) before I came up here, but don't suppose one dose will matter.

Grandma2213 Sat 21-Nov-15 00:51:06

tingaloo What a terrible predicament you are in. My heart goes out to you.

I think grannyactivist gives good advice. Imagine what your DH would have advised when he was more himself. You need rest, time and space to recharge your batteries. Remember there is usually someone out here who can give you a virtual hug when you are desperate. xxx flowers

grannyactivist Sat 21-Nov-15 00:39:46

tingaloo what a painfully difficult situation you're in - and the nights by a hospital bed can be very long and lonely I know. I'm thinking of you and said a little prayer. flowers

May I suggest that, in the morning, you share with the ward staff exactly what you have written here? There needs to be a care plan in place before they discharge your husband, and you need help. Perhaps it's time to consider a care home or at the very least, regular carers coming in to to give you some respite. What do you imagine your husband would have said to you if he had envisioned the situation you're now in? I suspect he would not want you to be fearful of the man he is becoming, but rather he would want you to feel safe even if that means making big changes in both your lives. (((hugs)))

Tegan Sat 21-Nov-15 00:38:49

Yes,I'm here too. You must look after yourself tingaloo...you can't care for him unless you care for yourself as well.

JamJar1 Sat 21-Nov-15 00:35:01

Only answering because I can hold hands, I'm still up but I can't add anymore to the wise replies you have received. Do reach out and get the help you need. flowers

boheminan Sat 21-Nov-15 00:33:36

Hello tingaloo. I agree with Galen and hope there will soon be some help for your husband (and yourself) in the way of sedation.

I do hope you manage to get some sleep, you must be mentally and physically exhausted. I don't sleep well and will probably be on here for a while, and I suspect others will be drifting in and out as the night/morning wears on. You are not alone flowers

Elrel Sat 21-Nov-15 00:28:18

Awake and feeling for you in a difficult, distressing situation. You need sleep to cope with tomorrow. I hope you are able to get the support Galen suggests above and that Social Services see you and your husband as a priority very soon. Although you probably don't feel up to it at present you must be firm, polite, calm but stubborn in asking to see more senior staff and making your husband's needs known.
Thinking of you and hoping that you get respite from the situation soon.

Galen Sat 21-Nov-15 00:09:45

Are the psychiatric staff involved? It sounds as though they should be, and that he should be sedated

tingaloo Fri 20-Nov-15 23:54:07

Hi My husband suffers from a chronic, degenerative lung disease and also dementia. We have been ticking along fairly well, although I have been desperate for some respite care for him as I am his sole carer and have not had a break for a couple of years. I have been waiting for weeks to hear from Social Services for an assessment of his needs.
We are now in a nightmare situation. Ten days ago he was blue lighted to hospital with pneumonia, where he has been ever since. He is now physically much better, but as is fairly normal, the infection has exacerbates his dementia symptoms. The first night after he had been admitted from a&e, I attempted to go home to sleep at about 1am, but was recalled to the hospital at about 2:30am as he was so agitated, had pulled out his cannula through which he was receiving fluids and antibiotics, and had removed his oxygen mask. He had had to be restrained by security staff. So I spent that night and the next trying to sleep in a chair next to his bed. Thereafter I went home at night to eat and sleep, but spent most of the day from breakfast to around 9-10pm with him, going home for a couple of hours in the afternoon to feed the cat and sort out things at home. Each time I have gone home, I have returned to find him in a state of high anxiety and fairly delusional.
I was expecting to bring him home at the beginning of next week, although I have been told that a Social Worker would be more likely to come to do an assessment if he is still in hospital.
Tonight, I returned home, and had just got into bed when the hospital called, saying he was extremely agitated, and had again had to be restrained. I asked to speak to him, and he was hysterically demanding that I call the police as "five men had been stealing from him and attacking" him. I asked him if he wanted me to come up, so here I am sitting in a chair by his bed for the night again. It has taken a long time to calm him down from his paranoia that the staff are trying to hurt or kill him, and that I am siding with them, but he is not making much sense. He is quiet now but not asleep, and I am exhausted. He wants me to take him home, and he is actually physically well enough now to go home, but to tell the truth, he is scaring me, and I do not feel able to cope with him on my own as he is now. There have previously been a few incidents at home when he has been threatening, pushed me or thrown food or water over me. I don't know where to go from here.
I love him, and want to be able to care for him.
It is dark, and the night seems to be stretching out before me.