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Katek Wed 23-Sept-15 14:04:28

It has been announced that Aberdeen is to take 100 Syrian refugees. FB is now full of bigoted, narrow minded vitriol. I'm appalled

rosequartz Mon 28-Sept-15 14:23:12

My view is that anybody who has to work in order to survive is working class That's my view too, Eloethan

(However, I've just thought, now we're retired what are we? hmm
I suppose we worked and earned our pensions)

rosequartz Mon 28-Sept-15 14:26:01

" I look down on him......was this The Two Ronnies or Monty Python?
It was the Two Ronnies and John Cleese (so right and partially right grin) roses
I think I put a link to it on youtube on a thread about class.

Gracesgran Mon 28-Sept-15 14:35:59

Wasn't on one of the TW3 programmes rosequartz? We are now dredging the archives of memory so I could easily be wrong.

rosequartz Mon 28-Sept-15 14:42:52

Was it The Frost Report?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2k1iRD2f-c

I can think of someone who is truly middle class - Hyacinth Bucket grin

Gracesgran Mon 28-Sept-15 14:51:17

Nooooo. Hyacinth Bucket is either upper working class or lower middle class although I would have to consult Jilly Cooper's "Class" (very funnysmile ) to be sure.

rosequartz Mon 28-Sept-15 15:03:28

And who could forget Onslow?

www.google.co.uk/search?q=onslow+keeping+up+appearances&rlz=1C2SKPC_enGB355&biw=1024&bih=677&tbm=isch&imgil=H72l1wMJ251j_M%253A%253B7yeEPgBP30u1HM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fffffound.com%25252Fimage%25252Fe32b88aead4d17322711e0127601c4d0055cde6b%25253Fc%2525253D130754&source=iu&pf=m&fir=H72l1wMJ251j_M%253A%252C7yeEPgBP30u1HM%252C_&usg=__cy0tFT34MI5IHDmoeEcM9ffR4y8%3D&ved=0CCsQyjdqFQoTCKD8jKjymcgCFYXXGgodFFkO1w&ei=ZkgJVqCxM4Wva5SyubgN#imgrc=H72l1wMJ251j_M%3A&usg=__cy0tFT34MI5IHDmoeEcM9ffR4y8%3D

Oh, what a long link!!

Anniebach Mon 28-Sept-15 15:08:52

We are retired working class rosequartz ,well I am semi retired working class grin

durhamjen Mon 28-Sept-15 15:21:51

voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/09/28/sack-the-spads-finish-the-focus-groups-and-stick-to-your-guns-jeremy/

Hyacinth Bucket.

Anniebach Mon 28-Sept-15 16:01:19

Good article jen

durhamjen Mon 28-Sept-15 16:05:01

Particularly the Hyacinth reference?

Anniebach Mon 28-Sept-15 16:19:32

Most definitely Jen

rosequartz Mon 28-Sept-15 18:11:28

The thought of Hyacinth in charge made me just knock a glass over in the kitchen (remember Elizabeth!)?

rosequartz Mon 28-Sept-15 18:12:24

We are retired working class rosequartz

Oh, OK
I just thought I could get away from any reference to work

Gracesgran Mon 28-Sept-15 18:19:28

It's so right - the article I mean. All those people demanding JC wears a tie, does up his top button, sings the National Anthem, etc., have been bucketed or is it that they are showing their inner bucket smile - brilliant.

Anniebach Mon 28-Sept-15 18:41:28

Poor Elizabeth

Marmark1 Mon 28-Sept-15 18:53:03

Not so,below the belt.Not at all.

Meersbrook123 Mon 28-Sept-15 19:02:18

I'm of a mixed race, mixed religion background, the daughter of an refugee (although Dad was only five when they arrived) but I understand that part of the reason for disliking immigrants nowadays is fear. I must admit that I too at times worry a little. Since the last war thousands of people from across the world have arrived and have become assimilated. My grand parents couldn't wait to become more 'English' and apart from their religion, they changed their complete lifestyle.
But when people come in great numbers from a completely different culture, some of whom wish to import their own obnoxious laws, refuse to integrate and plan to blow us up, people worry.

durhamjen Mon 28-Sept-15 20:06:52

That doesn't sound like fear, Meersbrook. It sounds more like dislike or even hatred. Nothing like pulling up the drawbridge.
If anyone should welcome refugees, it should be someone from your background, and with your history.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/27/un-official-asylum-assessment-centre-calais-france-britain

A UN official has said that Britain and France are not doing enough to help the people in Calais. I agree.

Tegan Mon 28-Sept-15 20:29:01

Award winning documentary on bbc4 tonight [Storyville] at 10 about a family in Syria. I was going to have an early night but will try to stay up for it; will be on catchup afterwards though.

Jane10 Mon 28-Sept-15 20:43:02

Meersbrook it sounds like a perfectly reasonable apprehension. You put it well.

durhamjen Mon 28-Sept-15 20:51:21

Saudi Arabia is about to behead a 21-year-old man and then crucify him to display his body in public. This same country was just chosen to head a U.N. Human Rights Council panel. If it weren’t so serious this would be funny!

Ali Mohammed al-Nimr was arrested when he was 17 for participating in demonstrations against the government, then he was convicted under torture. But his case is not an exception in the kingdom -- Saudi Arabia has executed more than 100 people this year, that’s a rate of one every 2 days!

France has already requested that Saudis stop this execution, but the US, Germany, and the UK also have very cosy relationships with the regime. The best way to get urgent action is to channel our outrage to these leaders who can persuade their Saudi allies. Sign up now to save Ali, and then stop this human rights farce, his execution could happen any time:

secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_saudi_beheadings_loc/?bkHcnjb&v=65557

Saudi is now Chair of the UN committee that oversees nominations to key special rapporteurs and experts. Ali’s whole atrocious case shows how absurd that is! Human rights experts say this is an ‘arbitrary execution’ prohibited under the international Convention on the Rights of the Child, as Ali would be executed for crimes committed when he was a minor. Ali is the nephew of a prominent Shia cleric, who has also been sentenced to death.

But they will go ahead unless there is a massive cost on the international stage.

The above governments have an ugly, but tight trade relationship with Saudi -- they either sell the Kingdom weapons or buy oil, or both! We know their voices count. When we campaigned earlier this year for the German Vice Chancellor to tell Saudi officials to stop the flogging and possible execution of the blogger Raif Badawi, Sigmar Gabriel spoke out. Badawi hasn’t been flogged in months and he’s still alive, even though he is still rotting in prison.

Let’s urgently get these powerful leaders to tell Saudis that they must stop this execution and then demand they weigh in at the UN Human Rights Council to ensure this new role is challenged. Sign now - let’s help save this young man’s life:

secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_saudi_beheadings_loc/?bkHcnjb&v=65557

When regimes worldwide violate basic human rights, our community has spoken out and helped stop atrocities. Let’s now raise our voices for Ali.

durhamjen Mon 28-Sept-15 20:53:14

This isn't here. This isn't refugees. This is the government of a country where some GNs think refugees should be sent. Do you really want Saudi to have more people to execute?

thatbags Mon 28-Sept-15 21:15:54

Senior German politican says immigrants must endeavour to adapt to liberal Germany.

durhamjen Mon 28-Sept-15 21:26:20

Have you read the comments, bags? Pretty awful.

Elegran Mon 28-Sept-15 21:31:44

Most of the comments have no connection with the article, of course - just a chance for people to parade their ignorance and prejudices.