How stupid is Corbyn getting

No idea Jen, I just find the timing strange , perhaps they tried the - we will leave the party if Corbyn win, didn't work did it? Perhaps he wants to stay in the shadow cabinet

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/06/stewart-lee-jeremy-corbyn-new-christs-bin-laden

Prescott named him, too. He was setting up a group called Common Good along with Chukka Umunna who is also telling everyone to get behind Corbyn now.
I think they know. Tristram Hunt is a Kendall supporter and has said he will not serve in a Corbyn cabinet. I wonder if he's changed his mind on that.

The press have named him as one who would but I haven't heard him say so Jen. I wonder why he chose to say it before Saturday , is he now sure Corbyn will win !

www.berfrois.com/poets-for-corbyn

Tristram Hunt changes his mind every week. Wasn't he one of the ones who was going to start a breakaway party?

Possibly the 76% of Labour councillors, who agree with Corbyn's plans, would like to see him win the General Election, but maybe they don't believe that enough voters will also agree and will vote for that to happen.

Tristam Hunt has said the there will be no split in the party,

Yes, I thought that, Notso.
Not much faith in the man beyond next week.
Hopefully that will change if the rest of the party get behind him.

Polls can be odd can't they?

The New Statesman article reports that an average of 76% of Labour Councillors polled agreed with JC's plans for publically run energy supplies/nationalising the railways/50p top tax rate/mansion tax.

Yet less than 20% of those polled thought JC would win the next General Election......which he'd need to do for the plans to be implemented I imagine.

Strange.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2015/09/05/we-could-have-peoples-qe-next-week/

The Bank of England uses QE all the time now. The difference is that all it does is buy and sell bonds so it looks as if things are okay in the financial world.
So why not have PQE, which will build houses, improve infrastructure, buy back PFI, etc., and at least ordinary people get something out of it, like jobs and decent pay.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/09/what-does-our-latest-poll-mean-labour-leadership-race

Less than a week to go.

Well I did say we wouldn't agree re Corbyn .

I don't see the likes of Hamas , Hezbolla, BNP anything other than political organisations that cannot be viewed as one being more worthy than another, I have no fondness for any of them, others obviously can.

My point has been lost Corbyn has chosen to say he uses dialogue and shared platforms with the likes of Hamas, Hezbolla because he considers dialogue is the right way to put over your views. He obviously also has the ability to be selective when it suits and that causes me to think there is a valid and commendable reasoning behind what he says but he is not being genuine if it only applies to those political organisations he has sympathy with.

I wish I could bring up his his interviews on Russia Today they have been very enlightening.

I could happily (wrong word) agree with that Penstemmon.

In any conflict I believe it is wise to keep talking and leave open even the smallest possibility for a negotiated settlement. That does not mean you have to abandon assertive, or the possibility of aggressive, actions.

I think that the nuclear option is too dangerous for everyone in the world.

I have been trying to get my head around why IS would want to infiltrate schools in the refugee camp.
They could blow it up or have their way with children or possibly recruit them, without going into the school.
Are they trying to brainwash them? Pose as teachers?
Assuming the reports are true. I couldnt find anything on google.

I think you would have to decide for yourself thatbags, as I read it he does not want the renewal of the biggest of sticks.

I like that quote, gg. Corbyn wants to get rid of the big stick as well though, doesn't he?

stb I am sure you are right. There have been reports of IS infiltrating the schools in the refugee camps.

However, that should not distract us from the huge humanitarian crisis which needs help.

Yep Gracesgran, i don't disagree with you and in fact, it could be argued the sooner we start talking, the better. I've just read through the thread about whether Cameron is shaming the country though and dialogue/consensus is certainly not in evidence over there. Grim, grim grim -I wasn't intimidated into not posting I just couldn't see the point

At 17 - 18 I would have called myself a pacifist I think Iam64, but I have since come to the conclusion that Teddy Roosevelt’s maxim "speak softly and carry a big stick" is generally what is needed. I do think you have to remember the "speak softly" bit though and, as far as Corbyn is concerned, the people he has been prepared to speak to in the past while some on here and elsewhere are holding there noses, may well be the people we have to speak to in the future, whether we like it or not.

soontobe- that fear that IS may be "arriving, mixed in with the refugees and migrants' is imo a red herring. IS members live amongst us already and I suspect they don't need to put themselves at high risk as asylum seekers are doing in order to enter Europe. This fear mongering seems to be influencing some people away from a humanitarian approach to refugees/asylum seekers.

Gracesgran, I agree that dialogue is the way forward in almost every conflict. I recall my wise father though, when as a radical 17 - 18 year old I railed against war and insisted everything could be resolved by appropriate negotiations and dialogue. Yes said he, you're right about most conflicts but there would have been no negotiating with Hitler. I continued to argue with him, as most young people would with their father - but his calm, consistent and kindly message to me has been a big influence in my life. He was, of course, right, as he so often was. I suspect we'll eventually negotiate with IS as we have with Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness. It doesn't mean I'd trust Gerry Adams with my children…..

Do you think none of the other 3 candidates have principles?

www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/08/what-corbyn-moment-means-left

Good post grumppa.

True, IS wont negotiate. And probably true that bombing Syria wont achieve much. Not sure.

They could start in fighting.
My hope is that they are not arriving mixed in with the refugees and migrants.
They might be, big time.