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Bogoff Tue 05-May-15 22:51:57

Many words that we used to innocently use in the past have changed their meaning in popular culture and are no longer PC. eg.

Gay = happy
Queer = unwell
Sad = unhappy
ginger = red hair
Minx = mischievous
etc etc

I'm sure we can all add to the list.

So, should we use words like these in their original context ?

I still say "I feel a bit queer" if I am unwell - my father always said that and I picked it up from him.

Ana Wed 06-May-15 21:01:45

I thought 'sweet Fanny Adams' was a polite way of saying 'sweet f..k all!'

Deedaa Wed 06-May-15 20:59:13

I was another Fanny Fanackapan and my mother called me Fanny (sometimes Fanny Adams) until the day she died.

bikergran Wed 06-May-15 20:26:59

GS whos 8 came in last Thursday sobbing (yes he is sensitive) the older boys round the corner (they play in little clusters) had made up a rhyme.

Roses are red
smurfs are blue
Garfield is ginger and so are you!!

he was heartbroken as not just one lad chanting it but 2 or 3 of them round about 12 yrs old,,GS said wishes he was a girl then he could dye it!! took me all my time not to go round to their parents as would prob make it worse..think Stepdad had a walk round, sought out the main culprit and reminded him it was a form of Bullying!!

DD had beautiful light gingery hair, she had more or less set up a website for Gingers, she made badges etc (Gingers will steal your soul) she us very proud of her hair colouring and always has been which I'm glas seeing as though she is 40 lol.

I sued to get Ginger Nut, rusty, specky four eyes as I wore glasses and don't ask about when I had to have a "Patch over my round blue clinic glasses)!!

Bogoff Wed 06-May-15 19:42:46

When I was at school in the 50's, ginger haired children did get a lot of abuse from songs/rhymes. I was never aware of our daughter getting similar abuse when she was at school, and now red hair is highly regarded.

Coolgran65 Wed 06-May-15 19:36:10

I've never before heard of Ginger=queer.

I never ever regretted being ginger/red head.
Even when boys would call .. Hey, Ginger - would you snap ?? blush

Ana Wed 06-May-15 19:35:00

There was a lovely song by Clifford T Ward entitled 'Gaye'.

Bogoff Wed 06-May-15 19:34:09

A friend of ours is John Thomas, doubt his parents would have given him that combination now. there are some advantages to having a non PC name though, I went to a presentation from a Richard Head, never forgot his name, grin

AshTree Wed 06-May-15 19:28:28

I asked the little girl who lived next door to me to be a bridesmaid, she was delighted. Her name was Gay - not short for Gaynor or Gabrielle, just Gay. I lost touch with the family over the years but have often wondered if she still used the name or maybe took her middle name.

Bogoff Wed 06-May-15 19:26:37

Ginger = queer
from rhyming slang Ginger beer.

Our daughter and her two boys are very ginger.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 06-May-15 19:20:43

I remember really envying a girl at school who was ginger haired, with freckles.I always thought she looked as though she was looking out through a sunny afternoon. We must have been about nine or ten at the time.

Marmight Wed 06-May-15 19:19:07

When talking about someone whose name he couldn't remember my late DH used used to refer to them as 'Fannyflapdoodle'!
It's such a shame some of these words can no longer be used in their original context. I had a friend named Gay when I was at school. No longer in use I am sure.

newist Wed 06-May-15 19:15:18

I was born Ginger, not a red head, When I was 5 at infants school, they used to sing "Ginger your barmy, your fathers in the army" needless to say I got upset, Then as I got older "you were left out in the rain and went rusty" I was covered in freckles, I realised I was in the minority, and gradually came to enjoy the fact that my hair was a definite colour with gentle waves in it

ayse Wed 06-May-15 19:09:32

Mother called me Fanny canaferpot. I wonder where this came from? My older DGDs think this is very funny.

Coolgran65 Wed 06-May-15 18:58:18

Ta Jings.

I wondered was there some specific negative inference to 'ginger' that I wasn't aware off.

My DSSs sometimes tease me about being/having been ginger, 'ginge' because they're doing their best to tease.....and I reply that us gingers are very special and unique in a good way and they should be very envious. Especially as two of my darling step gc have glints of ginger auburn, as also has their mum who coincidentally happens to be my second cousin.

Gingers rock.

Iam64 Wed 06-May-15 18:56:11

you're right jingle, it's now pronounced "ginga". It's also seen as being cool to be a ginga - could Prince Harry have influenced this at all…. grin

Nelliemoser Wed 06-May-15 18:45:32

Whoops "Fanackerpan" or whatever.

Nelliemoser Wed 06-May-15 18:44:31

Apparently Fanny Farnackapan is a term of endearment.

Which is how I understood it, but until I looked it up I had no idea and wondered if it was rude.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FanackapanFanackapan. 'little dear' Term of endearment, specifically mother to child. Lancastrian in origin.

I used to get called that by my parents and used it myself.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 06-May-15 18:43:59

I think they say "ging-a" now Envious. hmm

Just let anyone try calling my DGS that! Grrr!

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 06-May-15 18:42:28

that was to Coolgran btw.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 06-May-15 18:42:01

Well yes. That's what I said - ginger is still a hair colour. And ginger hair is still referred to as such. And not only in the (modern hmm) nasty way.

And it's a delicious spice, of course. smile

Envious Wed 06-May-15 18:38:45

I've gotten the impression from comedians and movies that describing a person as a "ginger" is a negative comment.I never heard it growing up.People were called red heads of anything and it was considered a pretty asset to have! smile

Ana Wed 06-May-15 18:32:38

A recent thread, anyway. About 2 year olds.

Ana Wed 06-May-15 18:31:59

What's wrong with 'minx'? There's a thread on here using that word.

Coolgran65 Wed 06-May-15 18:29:39

jings
I only know ginger as being a hair colour or a spice... what with having been a 'ginger' myself.
What am I missing? I've no idea of it meaning anything else confused

TriciaF Wed 06-May-15 17:48:56

I thought that was going too far too . After all it's just the latin word for black (less a g).
The first book I learnt to read was called Little Black Sambo - I wonder if that had the "n" word in it?