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A thread for people to learn some more about mental illness

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soontobe Fri 27-Mar-15 10:34:25

I have very little experience of it, but I will tell you what I know.

In 1997, I had clinical depression for 3 months.
I was hugely fortunate that I didnt have it for longer than that, and have not had it since.
I do feel myself edging closer occasionally, but I know, in my individual case, to move around more, and I increase my green veg intake, which works for me, to stop it in its tracks.
I worked out that mine was largely caused through inactivity. I had several children, and thought I would take things easy for a few months, when my youngest started school.
Once I worked out what had caused mine [which probably is not the cause of hardly anyone else's] I was able to come off the pills I was prescribed by the doctor.

So my experience is limited. But real nonetheless.

During that time, it was awful. I could barely function on a day to day basis, and could not cope with negative things in general, such as bad news on the tv etc.
Thankfully, everyone around me who knew about it was very supportive, so no problems in that regard.

My thoughts were scrambled at that time.
I was a stay at home mum. If I had been going to work, I presume I would have been signed off, as I dont think personally I could have functioned properly at work.

After the 3 months, and indeed during it, there were hours when I could function normally, and hours when my mind had switched into being depressed.
I have no idea if that is my experience is the same for others.

But it may help explain why the german pilot could function enough to fly a plane.
But I definitely agree that there should have been, and should be mental health checks by professionals in each and every country, concerning the mental health of every pilot. I had assumed that that was always done, but it appears not.
A gross and dangerous oversight in my opinion.

Sorry for the long post. But I think that the general population needs to know a lot more about how mental health works, than they do at present.
I think that because, people are afraid to talk about it in general, that that is why people who have not had it, know so little sometimes.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 22:49:07

And that there are markers in the urine of sufferers. The only mental illness will physical manifestations.

nannieroz111 Sun 29-Mar-15 22:48:27

falconbird I have found GransNet to be invaluable to my ability to cope with the loneliness of widowhood. Being able to communicate with other people who understand, has literally saved my sanity. There has even been occasions when I have laughed out loud........ something I thought I'd never do again. smile

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 22:47:18

I read, years ago now, that schizophrenia is the only mental illness regarded in the psychiatric profession, as true madness. I wonder if that still stands today.

absent Sun 29-Mar-15 22:43:23

Many moving stories bravely told but I wonder if anyone has actually learned anything about mental illness – or just about depression which seems the main focus – that they didn't already know. Just curious.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 22:30:01

I was on Valium for three years. They came after Librium. I think in the end they were making my panic attacks worse. I came off them (very slowly) because I wanted to have another child. I so thank God for today's ssri's.

loopylou Sun 29-Mar-15 21:14:44

Sherry? I'd be the opposite of euphoric.....envy, violently I'll!

Falconbird Sun 29-Mar-15 21:12:50

And when we've had a good "chat" we can go onto another site and cheer ourselves up with lighter subjects - perfect.

Falconbird Sun 29-Mar-15 21:10:47

I was prescribed Diazapam when my DH died. It was supposed to be short term but because of other stresses that rapidly followed, serious family fallouts, moving house, debts to settle, I was on it for two years.

Over the two years I slowly weaned myself of it and now have been Diazapam free for over two months. It wasn't easy and I had nightmares and one or two wobbly moments.

I think talking like this on Gransnet is worth ten minutes at the doctors. Talking and writing therapies all very much in favour at the moment so GsNet is providing a great outlet.

Such a wealth of experience to read about, it's marvelous and much cheaper than going to a private Counsellor. They are getting very expensive. Last I heard counsellors were charging £40 an hour.

Ana Sun 29-Mar-15 21:05:27

I don't think I'd be comatose after six sherries, but I'd probably be drunk. So perhaps I should have said 'intoxicated' not 'euphoric'...hmm

loopylou Sun 29-Mar-15 20:59:20

I was prescribed low dose Valium as a sleeping pill when doing night duty., it certainly worked!Temazepam (Mogadon) was another common sleeping tablet; it became a popular street drug frequently flogged by grannies in the 70's for a bit of extra cash hmm

absent Sun 29-Mar-15 20:36:14

Streuth! If one Valium tablet felt like having about 6 sherries, I wouldn't be euphoric either. I'd be comatose.

annodomini Sun 29-Mar-15 20:23:01

In the 60s, my mother was suffering from depression (menopause, relocation from her home area, emptying nest) and the doctor gave her some tablets, now long obsolete. Unfortunately he didn't tell her that cheese should not be eaten while taking this medication and she got much worse. I was away at Uni at the time and my sisters and father had to cope with this situation. Eventually she got off those tablets and recovered completely although she was always a worrier.

Ana Sun 29-Mar-15 20:21:54

I didn't feel euphoric at all - I was just grateful that little tablet calmed me down enough to make it to the shops and back.

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 20:05:07

The first one felt wonderful, like having about 6 sherries hmm

Ana Sun 29-Mar-15 19:53:42

Valium are/were tranquilisers rather than anti-depressants though. I was prescribed them about 30 years ago for panic attacks and they certainly worked! I only took them as and when though, not regularly.

A friend who'd been prescribed valium for anxiety however was on them for many years and found it extremely difficult to come off them completely.

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 19:50:29

So to everyone who needs some tlc - [tlc] and flowers

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 19:49:52

not to assume that you know someone's background and then attack
Ariadne, I did feel 'under attack' (not on here) because I said that not everyone felt they could share their experiences on the forums, which, after all, are out on the web for all the world to see.

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 19:48:09

but we musn't forget Valium - mothers little helpers - caused misery for millions
You are right, Anniebach, we have experience of someone in the family being prescribed these long-term and I am sure they have caused long-term problems.
I was prescribed them many years ago - wonderful little pills in the short-term and helped me through a depression due to circumstances beyond my control at the time. However, although very depressed and extremely stressed and sad, I wasn't suffering from clinical depression (at least I don't think so) and decided I wasn't going to take them any longer. I am so glad I didn't continue with them.
Some anti-depressants have had very unfortunate reported side effects.

annodomini Sun 29-Mar-15 19:32:40

Two wonderful and heartfelt poems on this thread. Well done, Mishap and Grannyknot. So thought-provoking. Thank you both. flowers

kittylester Sun 29-Mar-15 18:34:48

I've just read this thread in its entirety and I thank you all for being so open and honest on here. It is truly enlightening. flowers

Soutra Sun 29-Mar-15 18:25:23

Good point Ariadne we have doctors, dentists, other health care professionals, social workers, legal experts, experienced counsellors for all sorts of traumas-bereavement, marital problems, stress , employment issues, also psychologists, and for all I know retired pilots. There is a wealth of experience of all walks of life among our members as well as the university of hard knocks if only we realised!

Ariadne Sun 29-Mar-15 18:18:28

Some people on GN have much more training and qualifications (and experience) than we might realise. But compassion can't be acquired on prescription, can it?

Always better to check the facts first, as we should in the case of mental health problems, and not to assume that you know someone's background and then attack.

soontobe Sun 29-Mar-15 13:57:20

I just want to add to this thread, in light of another one, that no matter how much knowledge people acquire about this subject, that that should not stop someone seeing a doctor in the first instance, or advising someone to seek medical help.
At the end of the day, most of us have not had medical training or enough mental health training in this area.

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 10:43:56

grannyknot your mother sounds wonderfully eccentric and having three babies under 5 must have taken its toll on her and her hormonal system.

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 10:41:27

To all of you coping in your various ways and for staying strong

flowers