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A thread for people to learn some more about mental illness

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soontobe Fri 27-Mar-15 10:34:25

I have very little experience of it, but I will tell you what I know.

In 1997, I had clinical depression for 3 months.
I was hugely fortunate that I didnt have it for longer than that, and have not had it since.
I do feel myself edging closer occasionally, but I know, in my individual case, to move around more, and I increase my green veg intake, which works for me, to stop it in its tracks.
I worked out that mine was largely caused through inactivity. I had several children, and thought I would take things easy for a few months, when my youngest started school.
Once I worked out what had caused mine [which probably is not the cause of hardly anyone else's] I was able to come off the pills I was prescribed by the doctor.

So my experience is limited. But real nonetheless.

During that time, it was awful. I could barely function on a day to day basis, and could not cope with negative things in general, such as bad news on the tv etc.
Thankfully, everyone around me who knew about it was very supportive, so no problems in that regard.

My thoughts were scrambled at that time.
I was a stay at home mum. If I had been going to work, I presume I would have been signed off, as I dont think personally I could have functioned properly at work.

After the 3 months, and indeed during it, there were hours when I could function normally, and hours when my mind had switched into being depressed.
I have no idea if that is my experience is the same for others.

But it may help explain why the german pilot could function enough to fly a plane.
But I definitely agree that there should have been, and should be mental health checks by professionals in each and every country, concerning the mental health of every pilot. I had assumed that that was always done, but it appears not.
A gross and dangerous oversight in my opinion.

Sorry for the long post. But I think that the general population needs to know a lot more about how mental health works, than they do at present.
I think that because, people are afraid to talk about it in general, that that is why people who have not had it, know so little sometimes.

loopylou Mon 30-Mar-15 08:36:17

I wonder just how many woman were as capable after treatment as your wonderful mother Grannyknot?
I had a childhood friend whose mother had profound PND after her third baby and sadly never recovered. My friend was left to bring up her baby brother from the age of 8. Today's therapy is certainly more refined than then, ECT was really the only resource if Valium or other medications didn't work.

soontobe Mon 30-Mar-15 08:34:24

I agree Grannyknot.
When I was younger, I somehow had the impression that it was not recoverable from. Once a depressive person, always a depressive person.

I think that that is why I dont like labels to stick. It can be unfair, and untrue.

soontobe Mon 30-Mar-15 08:32:05

I am learning how people feel when they have a mental illness. How their day to day life feels. Which can be a difficult thing to explain. And often, when a person is going through it, they do not necessarily want to tell people that. It can be the last thing they want to do.

Grannyknot Mon 30-Mar-15 08:24:17

I hope my contribution has shown that someone who has a pretty severe episode of mental illness can successfully recover and raise a child to be a perfectly sane adult smile

loopylou Mon 30-Mar-15 08:23:10

Interesting questions kittylester
Although mine wasn't anywhere nearly as bad as some, it was triggered by, I think, taking on too much because I could 'cope', not saying 'no' and becoming utterly overwhelmed. I thought if I said no I'd be thought unable to do my job (twice it involved being bullied at work).
I didn't learn from this either, not until it really hit me and I had to change my work/life balance.
My GP told me too many people think they are Superwoman/man and try to keep too many balls in the air.
Unsupportive managers in my case didn't help.

Anya Mon 30-Mar-15 08:23:04

I meant it isn't insanity.

Anya Mon 30-Mar-15 08:22:39

I don't mean that depression isn't a mental illness though.

Anya Mon 30-Mar-15 08:21:52

I could write a book about schizophrenia as a close family member suffered from it. It is a horrible, incurable and frightening disease. I can never think of depression as a mental illness after witnessing years and years of this type of insanity.

kittylester Mon 30-Mar-15 07:41:20

This thread has helped me to understand how mental illness can manifest itself though, absent. I have never suffered (apart from a very short bout of PND that was nothing like anything on here!) and now have an insight of how it can affect people.

Are some people more susceptible? Is it part of our physical make-up or just as a result of life experiences? Or both? GK mentioned her serotonin levels - is that all it is?

absent Mon 30-Mar-15 06:24:26

Not a story for children.

jingl and Ana I didn't know about the urine thing but it is a bit of a random fact (if it is a fact, given that it is quite an old piece of research). I am not sure it goes anywhere towards helping me understand more about mental illness(es) –any more than the rest of this thread.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 23:36:25

Yep! I can believe that! I think I had blotted that story out. grin

Ana Sun 29-Mar-15 23:35:13

I haven't dared to google it, but when I was little and stayed with my granny my bedroom had a great big wardrobe in it, and I know I associated that with the Room...

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 23:32:33

OMG!!! No wonder I had bad dreams. I knew there was a room in it somewhere. That's brought it all back! shock

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 23:26:53

So did I. But I can't remember it now! Will google.

Ana Sun 29-Mar-15 23:25:44

I did hate that Bluebeard story...

Ana Sun 29-Mar-15 23:24:59

That looks like the pictures that used to come up when I used my kaleidescope as a child! I wish I'd kept that, it was so much better than the flimsy things you can get these days.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 23:24:34

Or a story about Bluebeard.

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 23:24:00

I don't remember that at all and I used to work in a psychiatric clinic but that was about a hundred years ago.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 23:23:56

Although there was a weird animal right in the centre of mine.

I think there were connections with a Rupert Bear annual. confused

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 23:22:50

Whe I was a small child, I had a recurring dream a lot like this picture of a DMT trip

I was ahead of my time obviously.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 29-Mar-15 23:21:21

I did read it quite a long time ago now. About fifty years actually. So they have probably changed their minds about it several times since then.

I don't think DMT would have been discovered then.

rosequartz Sun 29-Mar-15 23:16:46

No, I don't think I have learnt anything new, but that doesn't matter except about the markers in the urine which is interesting.

And perhaps that six sherries was an exaggeration as I have never drunk six sherries in one go.

Ana Sun 29-Mar-15 23:11:35

Although having googled it seems that from one small study it was found that 47% of the schizophrenic patients tested had evidence of DMT in their urine, so not an infallible guide.

Ana Sun 29-Mar-15 22:51:40

Well, that's something I've learned from this thread then jingl (and to absent)

merlotgran Sun 29-Mar-15 22:49:54

That's lovely, nannieroz. Keep smiling smile