Meridith Kercher

There is a man in prison who was found guilty of this awful crime (?Guede). What did he have to say about the involvement of AK and RS? I haven't seen anything anywhere in the press giving his version. It would be interesting to know that.

I agree Gagagran

themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Rudy_Guede's_Testimony_(English)

This what rudy guede said in evidence. This was after he was supposed to have told a fellow prisoner that Amanda Knox and Rafaele Sollecito were innocent, which he later denied.

But, in this country, for a person to be brought to trial again for the same crimes (double jeopardy) there has to be new evidence. As in the Stephen Lawrence case.

There is no new evidence here so far as I can see.

But, of course, Italy has no double jeopardy law.

I think America might use their very strict double jeopardy law to resist the extradition. Quite rightly imo.

I've been reading about the evidence as I felt it was one of those situations where between the press and the lawyers you couldn't get a clear picture.

Thanks nightowl though I still find it as clear as mud! That poor girl was done to death in a horrific way yet it all seems to be about the other three involved.

Perhaps violent is the wrong term, perhaps cruel would be better, JessM.
And yes , violent as well.

I find it as clear as mud as well Gagagran. I don't think rudy guede is a very reliable witness, nor do I think Amanda Knox is reliable. Both have changed their testimony several times and Amanda Knox named an innocent man as the murderer and was found guilty of slander. That doesn't necessarily mean she is guilty of course. I have my own feelings about her but that's not evidence.

perhaps all so high on drugs none of the three accused/guilty can remember what they did or didn't do.

They originally claimed to be high on cannabis and neither could recall anything that happened that night. Total amnesia is not a recognised side effect of cannabis smoking.

Not a great defence then, just a try-on

Not a great defence if you then claim you were nowhere near the house that night. At least be consistent.

"I was somewhere completely different at that time, and anyway I saw someone else do it", kind of defence!

Her frequently contradictory statements, do her no favours at all. Neither did that picture of her and her boyfriend snogging the day after the murder. Cling together for comfort maybe.

Like Aka I have started to read the evidence, including the judgements in the case which have been painstakingly translated into English. It seems that the Italian justice system has been unfairly criticised (ridiculed even). It may be different from ours (or that of the USA) but that doesn't mean it's not as good. There is so much information available it would take weeks to read through it all. I had to stop last night because the detail of how poor Meredith died was just too distressing.

Could someone send me a link to where they can find this information. I will trot off get a brew and my glasses so I can read the screen properly.

There's so many Nellie that it's only fair to look at them all. If you goole the name of the murdered girl then sift out the ones which are officially based from the speculations etc.

I think it is an established fact that passionate lovemaking, never mind snogging, is quite a common reaction to traumatic events.

What's the evidence for that absent? I've often read that in war zones, passion can take over, something about the search for life. Faced with traumatic life events, or bereavements, 'passionate lovemaking, never mind snogging' has been the last thing on my mind.

The drive for life, ie lovemaking, following a traumatic event is quite common. It's reaffirming that life is continuing.

I think that, following a very frightening experience, you would very likely seek closeness with another human being.

Hasn't it got the point where the how of the death matters? Surely reading the details of this crime is only going to exacerbate feelings of revulsion, which would be very likely to cloud judgement as to the who?

And then some people would just seek an easy target for their feelings.

I'm sorry if you can't follow that jess.