feeling proud to be British

A Scot, or someone living in .scotland would say they were going to Dumfries. Or they'd say they were going to Galloway.

Just as I don't say I live in Argyll & Bute. I don't live on Bute (which is an island for those who may not know); I live in Argyll.

Dumfries & Galloway and Argyll & Bute are regional council areas rathers than discrete places. Dumfries, Galloway, Argyll, Bute are all separate geographical areas.

I think southerners (including Welsh people) mentioning that they are going to Dumfries and/or Galloway would usually add "in south west Scotland" unless they knew their audience would have that knowledge already.

.. I don't know where Dumfries or Galloway are without looking on a map, so if someone said they were going there for a holiday I would expect that person to possibly explain to me that they were going to Scotland, and then elaborate as to whereabouts in Scotland.

I think when we say where we're going to go to we use the place name that makes it most clear to the person we're talking to. And [I may be wrong in this] but, if I say to someone I'm going to Scotland for a holiday [or if they say it to me] the conversation then goes on to 'where in Scotland'. I spoke to someone at work today and said I'd been to Berwick and she asked where Berwick was so I had to explain it was a Border town [even though she'd recently been to Edinburgh on the train]. If I was going to Anglesey I'd say 'Anglesey' not 'Wales' because I think most people know it quite well. If I was talking to my ex in laws, who live on the Welsh Border and I was going to a place in Wales I would name the place because they'd know where it was, but if I was talking to my neighbour I would start off by saying I was going to Wales, and then elaborate. Am I making any sense? [I know what I mean; I think ].

Paris Texas, Paris Illinois, Paris Kentucky, while not exactly innumerable, may justify saying Paris, France, but Vatican City, Italy? As opposed to what?

Moter? I used to visit my MOTHER.

Tegan I did use to say I was going to visit my moter in Perth Scotland, as it could be confused with Perth on Australia

Sorry, nonu, that was to greatnan. Crossed posts, and probably purposes too.

This one will run and run.

Why am I feeling so wicked?

In fact 2 s .
I feel so on top of the world !!

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Thanks for explaining that, Nonu. Now I think I will have a bowl of Rice Krispies.

As might be expected.

Yes, I know, nonu. They have it right for Americans, but when European in Europe says Paris, they mean the original one, in Fance.

The reason Americans say Paris , France is because there are innumerable Cities in Northern America called Paris

So, people snigger at them , but they have it right !!

Don't forget about the Stafforshire Newcastle as well, merlot

My grandsons have just been to Newcastle.....No. Not THAT one.

Northern Ireland!

I have never said "I holiday". I only use holiday as a noun. Just saying.

Ever wished you had just shut up lol

Knew it wouldn't clear things up with some.

Many - not all - people say ' I holiday in Wales' I have never heard anyone in Wales say to me ' I holiday in England'

Ana, you got it lol,

Tegan, I have enjoyed a couple of walking holidays in Dumfries and Galloway

Ah, I think I get it now.

(Crossed posts with Tegan and thatbags)

I'm not sure what your point is tho' Anniebach. When I had a holiday in Anglesey, I said I was going to Anglesey. Wales was understood, just as England is when you mention Lincolnshire or Devon, etc, or Scotland if you mention Wester Ross or Angus, etc.

I knew what you meant, Anniebach, and I agree that there is a tendency for the English to say 'Oh, I love Wales, we go there on holiday every year...' whereas no Welsh person would say the same about England. They may do about Scotland, of course, or Ireland...

Scottish people say they are going to England – if they do. Or "across the border".

I don't think I'll make a point of saying I'm going to visit my daughter in Derbyshire, England though. It sounds too American, like Paris, France.