The way things can be taken PLEASE READ THIS!

grumppa I take you point. But how much better it would be if they didn't say grumppa is talking rubbish and simply said I disagree because.......
Incidentally love the name

Oh, just read your post again Faye and I've said exactly what you said. Never mind, I'll let it stand as it reinforces the point.

Ariadne I am guilty as charged but when you feel like that there is often a reason as kitty said feelings are valid because you feel them. I am happy to let sleeping dogs lie, but that bl***y dog keeps getting up and barking again, and again!!!!

And one shouldn't let one's feelings about other posters show! Mea culpa a couple of times, and each time I have regretted it and apologised but can see why I was wrong.

Faye I think you are right, nobody should try to tell another poster how they should think or feel as they don't have any experiences but their own. My feelings are valid just because I feel them.

I agree grumppa with what you have said. But may be don't say Grumppa is talking rubbish, say I don't agree because.... Please don't lurk, join in, it is nice to have different points of view.

I agree too with nanapug, you have gotten to the point. Posters who should know better often don't seem to understand how spiteful their posts sound to others. Well done to those who see this happening and step in and say enough.

As a newcomer to writing, though a reader for some time, and a man, I hesitate to comment, but fools rush in where angels fear to tread, so here goes.

A lot of the threads are clearly started with a view to encouraging the expression of different points of view, and Gransnet would be a waste of time if this were not the case. Given that, things might progress more smoothly if those who disagreed with an opinion said why, in addition to just saying no, and tried to advance the discussion.

So don't just say Grumppa is talking rubbish, say Grumppa is talking rubbish because.....

I also get the impression sometimes that some people just don't like each other. Nothing wrong with that, but we should try not to let it show, and if in doubt, say nowt.

Things have got way too complicated l have been here from. the beginning but things have changed. I tend to lurk and not comment much but now l feel quiet. Initiated. I will say no more plus l have had too much wine tonight.

I think that [sometimes] once someone has got a fixed idea in their head about what another poster is like, they interpret everything they say from a different perspective [and yes, I hold up my hands and say it's something I do and am aware of doing]. Going back to the first post, years ago I'd had a new kitchen fitted and I was quite chuffed with it. A friend came round who only visited every decade or so and I showed her my kitchen. Her only comment was how much she liked the curtains. Of course, I assumed she didn't like it until a few years later I visited her house and she'd had a new kitchen, and it looked very similar to mine. I then realised that she did like my kitchen, but really, really liked my curtains. Which shows how easy it is to misinterpret what someone says.

I'm not sure that what I was trying to get at has actually come across! So not exactly a sort of QED, or is it?

merlot*! How do you do it?! Fantastic!

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The bit about moderators was in reply to Ana. Must go now husband is nagging me to come and watch telly.

merlot funny! I think what I mean by paid moderators is that forums are meant to self moderate but sometimes obviously this one doesn't and then 'staff' have to jump in! Am gonna put a smiley face on every post now

I think I'll follow
Or else tomorrow
Knackered I will be

I've had some wine
And I think it's time

To do the washing,up!

My bit of A4
Has been thrown on the floor'
My As and my Cs
Fell apart on my knees,
My Bs won't align
Cos I've had too much wine,
Can't follow this thread,
So I'll head off to bed.

JJing
It's like an algebraic quadratic equation isn't it?

'Paid moderators' though, Grannyknot? I don't think GNHQ see themselves in that role - they don't just pop up and tell us off if things are getting a bit heated!

Hold on while I draw a graph.

23 . IMHO problems are sometimes caused when C posts on behalf of B after B has replied to A (or something like that). I think adult women can mostly speak for themselves and if they can't, that's what paid moderators are for!

I realise I am (unnecessarily) a little bit 'sharper' than what I would normally be, though but I think that has nothing to do with GN and more to do with me.

A should be happy, oh so happy
Laughing ha ha chaffing ha ha
B should die in misery
Of course that is assuming that I am A

(Apologies to G &S)

Sorry. Couldn't resist it? (Repentant)

Yes, makes one wonder why we even bother. Very depressing isn't it?

Granny 23 more or less right but you forget that somewhere around K someone will start speaking in code, I turn up and become completely bewildered, feel left out as I've got no idea whether G and Z are one and the same person as J seems to be implying. Meanwhile, someone else needs a bit of TLC (probably me if I've been to see my Mum!!) and they don't get it because of all the above!

Possibly!!

FFS!

It's an effing forum on the internet. It's not a religion.

Beautifully put Granny23

Granny23

How wonderfully put!