Awful murders near Annecy in the French Alps

So you think saying everyone is racist about the French and putting on a smiley face was appropriate , do you?

Yes. It was inappropriate. I should not have got sidetracked like that.

I will ask Gransnet to delete those posts.

And I will try to avoid you on here Greatnan, and would be grateful if you would do the same with me.

And that goes for Charlotta too.

I don't think that this thread is the place for accusations or snide remarks of any sort.

All we can do is pray that the little seven year old recovers. At least then they will have each other.

I don't suppose the whys and wherefores are going to matter much to them.

Well said JO.

This summer there have been far too many horrible deaths of children, by drowning, or drivers, or parental neglect, or just sheer accident.
Very disturbing and upsetting

Nonu no need to make that remark about the French, as Charlotta said the site is perserved for forensic examination. How a body is found is very important in detecting the scene, in any crime scene the police stress that where possible do not touch anything. That includes bodies. Our police would do the same.
What a dreadful crime. That area is so beautiful how sad to think that it is also prey to such a dreadful crime. The 7 year old was 'beaten to within an inch of her life' what sort of person does that to anyone let alone to a little girl. A lot is being made [in the news] of the fact that the family is British Iraqi, trying to find a reason I suppose. I think everyone is so horrified that they are just trying to find a reason. Poor little girls hopefully there are other members of the family to help them through this and make a home for them,

Their home in Claygate is a warm community and I am sure they will be well supported if they return there.

Having had my own four year traumatised by the sudden violent death of her mum,and in the same place as a witness my heart goes out to this little girl and her sister for the difficult path her life will now take,and the families who will have to wait for the bodies to cease to become police property and returned to their families so they can lay them to rest this can take many months.
The task of explaining where her family are to a four year old I wouldn't wish on any one...I hope that there is family that can take them in and care for them poor poor little girls

Hopefully they will have a loving extended family who will be able to care for them.

Littlenellie So many innocent lives are damaged by violence .

Littlenellie

Thank you when and nanaej ,It's not me that I am thinking about but the way those little girls lives changed in an instant my flowers are for them and their family

The flowers are to acknowledge how tragic events like this are bound to bring back such unhappy memories for you nellie. You have an understanding of what these little girls are going to need from now on.

Thank youwhen In order to show I empathise I have to refer to my own situation and feel guilty about drawing attention to my own situation and sidetracking about me,thank you for recognising this xxxfor you too

Apparently police are looking for the brother of the man who was murdered. There has been argument about land in Spain and who should own it. It's not clear whether it's this person who has carried out the shootings or someone else.
Littlenellie, you didn't draw attention to your own situation, only to say that you could understand the trauma that the little girls would go through. An unbelievable nightmare that on-one could imagine.

Littlenellie (((hugs)))

Littlenellie
Those poor traumatised children

Don"t lets tooooo carried away with the French , lovely people I am sure , we were looked after nicely in the hotel in saint Severain , butn don"t they call us "roast Bif" or is that racist ????

That doesn't offend me Nonu and, in the circumstances, wouldn't it be appropriate to show respect to all concerned?

Littlenellie - I am sure we all understood your post - you know more than anyone what this trauma will mean to the little girls. Let us hope they have a relative as good as you to look after them.
I hope we can return to the serious discussion of this tragedy.

Let's leave out these suggestions about racism – whatever country we are talking about. The English are certainly not classed as a separate race and I suspect the French aren't either – but it doesn't matter because there is no scientific way to isolate races. It's an absurd concept. We are different nationalities just people and our hearts go out to those affected by this terrible crime and we'll all hope, I am sure, that the children will recover and cope.

I am glad you are not offended Kitteylester, yippee, I believe in my heart i have respect to all concerned .

if you go back to my previous posts I said I am sad about the whole business.

Anyway i AM now off to sup Champagne with my husband and watch the football, what are u going to do ???