Forum etiquette.

I'm not being tongue in cheek. Why would I be in this context? The thread had 'gone to sleep'. I felt bad about re-awakening it. But I just wnated to say what I did to Granbunny.

imjingl are you being tongue in cheek when you say you shouldn't have started up the thread again?

Surely no-one person can order others not to post.

Anagran I did NOT mean to start the thread up again! I just wanted to put a quick remark up to Granbunny.

I shouldn't have done so I suppose, but you didn't all have to start up again.

I reiterate, it sounded like a threat Anagram

anagram, i have shown goodwill and still do. you have no grounds for withdrawing goodwill but you are free to do so, of course. and i am surprised you are willing to speak for other gransnetters.

what happened then happened also here today. stop imagining gn has no room for improvement.

bagitha, are you looking for it too? three or four lines. i know who posted it but i am too polite to say. i searched some of the words shortly after the event - i didn't find it, but you might.

Oh, for goodness' sake, petallus!....

I give up.

Anagram that sounds a bit like a threat (though I'm sure you didn't mean it to)

Denying what ever happened? We've already said, the posts are all still there! Including the troll line. It's you who is insisting posts have been deleted. You are going to end up exhausting the goodwill members are showing towards you very soon at this rate, granbunny.

Can you remember any of the song? Apart from troll. Even a tiny bit would help me to know whether we're talking about the same post.

bagitha, i am glad you have found gransnet to be a much nicer place than i at first found it. thank you for the times when you have been supportive - it has helped.

as i said earlier, no-one needs to make amends and i am not denying that i have enjoyed kind responses as well - i have thanked many people, and as i said earlier, i am still here.

but denying it ever happened does not help innocents who arrive here in future. i've actually seen a recent poster upset in the last week - so it clearly hasn't ended.

oh, and it was a song. i saw it. then i didn't see it. that suggested to me that it had been removed.

anagram, at the time, i checked. recently, i did not. at all. disparage? certainly not. draw back the curtains, perhaps.

granbunny, I have not come across mean-spiritedness and unkindness on gransnet. I know your early posts were not well received by some people but that's all water under the bridge now and on several of the threads where you have posted since (I won't have read them all probably) people have been kind, welcoming and agreeable.

I re-read one particular thread, which is obviously the one you're concerned about. You said you'd looked for posts and couldn't find them, so you obviously have searched.

I, too, am a perfectly honest and straightforward person, which is why I am at a loss to understand why you continue to disparage GN and its members and don't seem willing to accept that the misinterprations of your initial posts were just that.

Fair enough, thanks bagitha for making that clear

It's not a song, just a phrase, spoken in reaction to posts that had gone before.

I have just checked as well. The post you refer to as the 'troll song' is still there.

It's easy to tell if posts have been deleted by HQ because they tell us!

granbunny I have already checked, and I agree with anagram - I do not believe any posts have been deleted. I was around when all this started and I have no memory of the 'troll song' you refer to. I would certainly like to know if any such thing happened on this forum, as it would not be something I would want any part of.

i play very nicely. at all times. i am a perfectly open, honest and straightforward person.

there is a lot of mean-spiritedness on gransnet, and unkindness, and some gners who take part in it deny its existence. that doesn't actually make it go away.

i maintain my original position. if there is to be a discussion of etiquette, being nice to newbies, don't kowtow to those who think they 'rule the roost', and be open about how horrible gn can be - so that gners can stop doing it, are all things to bear in mind.

i wonder why you should wish to pursue this to the bitter end, anagram. you have searched and re-read old threads - i haven't. i wouldn't have thought you and i had anything in particular to argue about - you're particular about spg and i'm willing to be corrected so i don't see a problem there.

no, anagram, i don't keep pms. and the troll-song, which i would so like to see again, was on open forum.

Surely you have a copy of the pm you refer to, Granbunny? As for playing nicely, I'm not sure at all that you are.

nightowl, if you want to check, please do. as for 'once and for all', the matter is really quite simple.
gransnetters, play nicely!

Perhaps GNHQ could confirm whether any posts have been deleted and put an end to this once and for all.

Can I point out that no one can decide that a thread should stop although, of course, they may suggest that it should be.

Second, private messaging is what it says on the tin - private. It's no one else's business.

I'm not at all sure where all this complaining about cliques and long-standing members is coming from or why. I have been a member since last May but have not signed up to any cliques. I don't know any other gransnetters who have.

I reserve the right to mock any comment or claim that I find ludicrous, absurd or laughable. Generally, I don't bother.

because when i looked for them i couldn't find them; and i think it might have been mentioned in the pms.
can you tell me where the troll-song is? if it's still there, that will be an indication that the others might also be extant.

I honestly don't understand why you said posts had been deleted, granbunny.

(hands in pockets, whistling, staring into space)...

Yes you did, jingl. No posts have been removed/deleted, whatever. They are still all there. So it's not interesting. Leave it.