2year old DGS escaping from car seat

I do remember DD finding DGS had escaped from his playpen at about 14 months old; it was one of those modern ones that slotted together and he'd just taken it to pieces.

The old-fashioned wooden ones with a floor were much better.

I m with the ‘stop the car and refuse to move until he’s back in his seat’ I remember my daughter doing that a few times when the kids were quarrelling in the back

Have star charts gone out of style ? a star for every good performance and a small gift at the end of the week if it’s filled with stars

I used to work as a pupil guide, for special needs children. There is a special sort of harness you can obtain, where it is buckled behind the seat, so the child cannot access the mechanisms at all. It used to be named after a famous escapoligist that ended in "dini", but then realised it was a bit incorrect, so it became just referred to as the extra harness as needed. Not sure how you would go about obtaining one, sorry.

Escape proof seatbelts are definitely available, many special schools have to use them for their escapologists!
www.onbuy.com/gb/p/qopahi-anti-escape-car-seat-strap-baby-harness-chest-clip-baby-safety-strap-prevent-childrenkids-taking-their-arms-out-of-child-car-seathigh~p68224224/
I wonder if this might help?

Hithere

General warning for posters: safety is a huge issue for parents

A caregiver who puts their child in danger (nevermind how much how much this person claims not to do anything to hurt the child and to want the best for the child) - may see the access restricted

I assume you did not intend to be di patronising!

What on earth has this got to do with the OPs request for any advice. Neither she nor anyone else has suggested they are caregivers putting a child in danger!! In fact one comment the OP makes suggests she is asking because the child Mum is finding it difficult, particularly the school run! 🙄

Patronizing? Oh please!

It is very common sense that if an adult cannot keep my child safe, that person will not be childcare

A grandma that lets a 2 year old do in a car and has no idea an adult is in charge, not the child, has no business taking the child anywhere

If there is a car accident and the child is harmed due to not being in the car seat, the adult is liable

Older is not always wiser

He hasn’t managed to escape from the playpen yet……

I think the OP is trying to help the mum in this case, Hithere

ComeOnGran

He hasn’t managed to escape from the playpen yet……

He's probably too old for a playpen now anyway.

Is he in a bed now?
Or climbing out of the cot?

DGS took after his mother, Houdini.

Definitely needs an escape proof car seat. You can't rely on a 2 year old obedience. It's not a question of discipline.
Anything that distracts the driver could be fatal.

Hithere - in this case the person bringing the child in the car is the child's mother. Are you suggesting she shouldn't be allowed to care for her own child? OP actually said she wouldn't be bringing child anywhere till this issue was resolved.

loopyloo

Definitely needs an escape proof car seat. You can't rely on a 2 year old obedience. It's not a question of discipline.
Anything that distracts the driver could be fatal.

I agree.
A small child in our family was trying to escape her car seat, managed to open the car window and when her mother turned to remonstrate with her, she bumped into the car in front.
All were fine, thankfully. The small child is now a sensible 18 year old!

Hithere

Patronizing? Oh please!

It is very common sense that if an adult cannot keep my child safe, that person will not be childcare

A grandma that lets a 2 year old do in a car and has no idea an adult is in charge, not the child, has no business taking the child anywhere

If there is a car accident and the child is harmed due to not being in the car seat, the adult is liable

Older is not always wiser

Tge OP is NOT the one struggling with the child seat issue; it's the mother of the child!!!

The OP has never said it was her. No other poster has suggested taking the child in a car safely!

...UNsafely!

Because you appear to have missed the point that the OP is NOT the one having the difficulty, it comes over as patronizing!

Older is not always wiser well in this particular case "older" is using common sense and asking for ideas/advice to help "younger" who is struggling with a risky problem with her child! "Older" is not the problem...!

Well said Madgran - it's really annoying when posters don't read the thread properly.

Farmor15

Well said Madgran - it's really annoying when posters don't read the thread properly.

Yes it is! And itvis also annotong when an irrelevancy about "interfering"; "out of date"; "OTT"; "putting grandchildren in danger"; " "risking estrangement" etc etc is yet again brought into a perfectly reasonable thread where an OP is asking for advice and ideas regarding a problem!

33Madgran77 and Farmor15
I'd already pointed out to Hithere about the OP trying to support the mum before you were calling for people to read the thread.

Not trying to be rude but maybe take your own advice?

NotSpaghetti I did not tell Hithere to read the thread!

I have read the whole thread! I had already commented to Hithere before you in fact and she quoted my comment back and still appeared to have misunderstood...I was then responding to that as it was wider than your own comment!

And I'm not sure why I am now 33Madgran ...if only! 😏

Might something like this be more suitable? www.kiddies-kingdom.com/9m-11yrs/31534-cybex-pallas-m-fix-sl-group-1-2-3-car-seat-pure-black-2023.html?sv_tax1=googleads&utm_campaign=PMax+%7C+Cybex+%7C+Hero+Products+%7C+SL+%7C+8%&sv_tax3=SL&utm_term=&sv_cost=17689672712&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA6byqBhAWEiwAnGCA4IV7MY2cjta54DKA4frOj2tD7rN7mnFkgl_n5ZzvRYFOdVlksjOmFhoCZ4wQAvD_BwE#q=&page=0&refinements=%5B%5D&numerics_refinements=%7B%7D&index_name=%22all_en%22

I know the extra buckles that can be bought aren’t recommended as I believe they invalidate insurance and can be a problem in the event of an actual accident.

Tell him the car can’t work until he’s safely fastened in and make sure it fits him properly

The minute you hear or see it undone stop the car ASAP. Tell the child if he doesn't stay strapped in the car is going nowhere. Strap him in again and move off slowly and if he does it again stop and put in buggy and walk. Refuse to drive him anywhere again. A child was killed a few years ago that did this and opened the door. They fell out and went under a car. It's very dangerous

I agree with M0nica - worked for me with my grandson when aged 2. "We are not going anywhere unless you keep your seatbelt on, and if you take it off, I will stop the car!" Only takes a few repetitions and he will learn. With toddlers, actions must lead very rapidly to consequences. Remember what's at stake - his safety and your driver's licence!