Freebies

Why would you 'pay' for the privilege of taking part in a clinical trial that does not end until January 2023?

What has anyone gained, so far, by taking this jab against
something that has a 99% recovery rate. You still cannot travel freely, (surely one of the MAIN reasons, people had the jab in the first place), still got to do the test and trace, still need to scan a code to get a meal at a restaurant.

And those of you who have had the 'wrong' Astrazenaca batch, can't go anywhere at all as, its not been approved by anyone in Europe! Did you even know about this?
I'd pay good money to see this toxic 'vaccine' get flushed down the toilet.

I’ve always had a free ‘flu jab. I’d be happy to swap the free ‘flu jab for being free of the need to have one.

Yep, I’m still paying my taxes Alegrias, but nowhere near as much as when I was working. I appreciate living in this country where we have an excellent health service, free at the point of use. But had I been asked to pay for my vaccine, which clearly would never have been done in the UK, I would have gladly paid. I had Pfizer which would have cost about £30 I believe, but theAZ vaccine has been sold at cost, and I’ve read between £2.50 to £4.00. I’m not sure of the exact price. This I understand, is so the world can access vaccines. The quicker the better in my opinion.

www.development.ox.ac.uk/make-a-gift/coronavirus-research-fund

Yes, I would pay

I always used to pay for my flu jab before I qualified for a free one. I have no trouble with that or with paying my taxes. I'm sure taxes will go up after the past year or so of colossal expense.
In my opinion people can earn as much as they like and good luck to them -as long as they pay their correct amount of taxes.

Always paid for a flu jab until the age of 60! The lockdown reduced the amount of income a lot of people had, so they probably wouldn’t have bothered.

Anybody who says they'd willingly pay, well you'll get your chance. If you're still a taxpayer, that's how they'll recoup the cost.

Not wanting to pay for this particular vaccine doesn't mean I think I should get everything for "free". It means I pay my taxes so that we have as fair a system as possible.

More slagging off of GPs! I’ve had enough of it! No surgeries are closed, they just triage you first before you go in. The doctor decides if you need to be seen, or if a telephone or video consultation is appropriate. There’s a pandemic on, but perhaps you hadn’t noticed.

If it was the difference between having or not having the vaccine then I would have paid.

Yes, I would happily have paid.
I’m amazed at the number of people who say, it’s free, so no, wouldn’t pay. How do they not realise how overstretched the health service budget is, and how lucky we are to have got a vaccine? Yes of course taxes pay for the health service but how selfish are some people who think they are owed everything from the taxes they paid in the past.

Absolutely agree with Janiepops! I would have gladly paid for the vaccine, and doubled it up for someone unable to pay. I think in this country we forget how lucky we are to have medical help when we need it. I know it's paid for by our taxes, but I have friends in other countries who have been crippled financially having to pay for a long term illness. I'm afraid we often also don't appreciate our freedom to complain about, frequently very abusively, those in power.

Nannan2

I know what you mean Cosmo14- im fed up of the drs receptionist thinking they know more than the DR! They tried argue it out with me over my son not getting it at drs surgery but i got his consultant from hosp involved by letter.No problem then.(the Pneumo jab at GP surgery covers more strains than the one at chemists, oddly enough, even though we are paying for it at chemist!) Thats why i wanted youngest son to have it there- to make sure he's covered as much as possible.

We actually had emails telling us that the receptionists had done a two week course and we had to divulge our symptoms to them so they could triage cases.

I ended up having a heated discussion with the practice manager and really wished I’d screenshot the message. Unsurprisingly our surgery is still all locked up and impossible to get in to and we are still expected to discuss our private business with the admin staff. Smart purpose built swanky building with eight + partners. About as much use as a chocolate teapot.

My daughter, lives within walking distance of us, is at a smaller surgery with three partners and they’ve been open throughout. My grandson was seen with excema during lockdown. Impossible to change GPs currently as so many people have been trying and the system is overloaded.

Just thankful that these doctors weren’t working in hospitals!

Payment would have introduced another level of admin and would have delayed the effectiveness of the roll out. Sorting out those who paid and those who didn’t, would most likely cause some arguments and could potentially be disruptive. Be more difficult to keep staff and volunteers safe if punch ups ensued.

One year there was a bad flu epidemic predicted and a shortage of vaccines. The level of aggression at the surgery I worked in was quite a shock especially from some of the mild mannered, normally cheerful and friendly, people.

I'd have willingly paid some kind of contribution for my AstraZeneca Jab.

I feel so awful that people in very poor countries are having difficulties getting a vaccine - as well as not having good water supplies to help with their overall hygiene routines.

I think what people fail to realise is that big pharm already makes billions out of the NHS...see the Kings Fund report into the rising cost of medicines to the NHS. ..£20.9 billion and up by 9.9% in 2018/19. Astrazeneca might not have charged for the covid vaccine, but make no mistake, they will be ensuring their stockholders do not loose out so will be increasing the cost of other medicines they produce. It's big business and in my opinion, immoral to make so much money out of illness.

I was a nurse for almost 50 years. I think I've done my bit for the patients in Britain..

I know what you mean Cosmo14- im fed up of the drs receptionist thinking they know more than the DR! They tried argue it out with me over my son not getting it at drs surgery but i got his consultant from hosp involved by letter.No problem then.(the Pneumo jab at GP surgery covers more strains than the one at chemists, oddly enough, even though we are paying for it at chemist!) Thats why i wanted youngest son to have it there- to make sure he's covered as much as possible.

Frederika

Yes, I would have paid too. I'm so thankful to have been born in UK

Just like we have had to pay the debt for the last war. There will always be a debt of some sort for future generations to pay back.
, that’s just the way it works.

Only jumping on the people who make silly comments Nannan2. I've been quite nice on the Princess Alexandra thread

You "mix" them by getting one at one appointment and the other at your second appointment. Or AZ for the first two most of us have already had and Pfizer for the booster. Not in the same injection

And if you don't think "tiny incidence" means ... well... "tiny incidence" then I don't know how to continue with this conversation.

But I'm the ridiculous one, sure.

Yes Shirlb comment is a bit off- some are terribly ill with it even if they survive it- and the realisation now of long covid problems points out that yes, it really is that bad, even if you are one of the ones who survive it.Some may have it, but not have many symptoms, but it doesn't make it not that bad in their future, or indeed for many others.

I paid to have the pneumonia vaccination despite qualifying due to health reasons, my doctors surgery ( receptionist) said no I didn't qualify, couldn't be bothered to argue and paid and would have for the covid vaccine.

I most certainly would yes, because I value my life and I was very grateful to be offered it. The nhs is struggling and I for one am very grateful to have received treatment in the past that saved my life.
To me it meant I had the confidence to live my life again, and get out and about. You can't put a price on that ?

Alegrias1 jumping on every one today- no it does not mean Tiggersuki would have 'jumped the queue' it just means she would have gladly paid- which is what O.P asked- but comment meant if we wish to make a contribution towards it, it would be contributed towards anything in NHS, not just covid jabs..Sheesh. some folk on here just like to jump on innocent comments on here and pick on them (probably the ones from mumsnet!) which is why I've not been on for awhile.It spoils it for us 'older giffers' whom GRANSNET was intended for, is it not? ?

Alegrias1- Yes, That is EXACTLY what they announced on the BBC news when they announced we would be offered a winter booster of the covid 19 vaccine for the vulnerable groups!- they said they are considering it would possibly be Astrazenica MIXED with Pfizer- (so what other ways is there to mix it together then? If not in test tubes, then put in vials- or just straight into the glass vials-together?? And YES correct it- why shouldn't they be expected to IMPROVE a vaccine that they openly admitted had this 'fault' - I'm sure its not a "TINY INCIDENCE" for the families of those people who have died because of that- my God thats a ridiculous comment you just made if ever there was one.?