Over 70s

Rosalyn69 while someone is searching your pockets for that card that says "Do not resuscitate", you will be coughing and spluttering all over them - passing on the virus to yet another person or two. THAT is why you should comply with staying in and keeping your distance.

Get it written in indelible ink across your forehead.

Was going to say the same Hetty58. A young nurse was interviewed saying that virus patients keep saying “but I only ..,,,.” as they struggle with every breath.

Perhaps these people should have an I tattooed on their forehead so the ambulance crew can just push them into the gutter and go on to deal with a person who deserves their help.

No.

BlueBelle ' I m not staying in just because of my age'. At your age you are far more likely to die from the virus.

Rosalyn69, if you were to collapse somewhere, the ambulance crew would try to resuscitate you. It's their job. They wouldn't be faffing around looking for a card.

I’ll happily carry a card saying do not treat and do not resuscitate so I’ll still be saving the NHS although I’m not sure what we are saving it for.
And think of the economy and the millions out of work and no money.

I am not a carrier

How on earth do you know, BlueBelle?

It's pointless even discussing it

* I don’t consider I will be treated any differently to the rest of society just because I m 75*

At 75 the virus will treat you differently though

Comply not complain on second row

If the general lockdown stays for another month or through the summer I ll continue to complain,y but I m not staying in just because of my age I’d the rest of society is out and about
Far more important is they the government is now thonking about guarenting people comeing in on planes thinking about it that should have happened two months ago rant over

I have complied completely with all that has been asked of me oopsminty I have not seen my grandkids I ve not seen friends I have stayed in my house I have not gone to the shops
I have gone on a short walk or cycle ride ALONE. and where there are no congregations of people indeed very very solo walks I have done all that for two months what I am saying is WHEN the lockdown is over and people are allowed to revert to some kind of normality I will not stay on lockdown because I’m over 70
I am not bucking the trend, I m not going against advice, I am not a carrier or a sufferer thankfully but I don’t consider I will be treated any differently to the rest of society just because I m 75
I m not a maverick or looking to be anti establishment but I m not being kept in a glass bubble when everyone else is back to work and opening up shops etc That’s all

NfkDumpling there isn’t much point in staying in then if it can come in anyway. Except that we’ve been dealing with everything coming in as per the instructions to either wash or leave for 72 hours.

Yes, it can come in anyway, but every single thing you do to reduce the risk is going to help. Staying in will definitely help. You are washing or quarantining everything that comes into the house, so you're doing what you can.

Sorry. When I let go of the mouse to click to send the previous post, it twitched and deleted half a sentence, Should read "and just left it to rampage straight through, and not tried to "flatten the curve" or to acquire and man ICU beds and equipment, care for and treat the worst patients, or prioritise the manning of essential services. "

The first wave of the Spanish flu in 1918 killed 3 to 5 million. The second wave killed 20 to 50 million.

If those who are "ready to take their chances" mingle together and with their friends and family and neighbours and fellow shoppers too soon, become infected with the coronavirus, and each hand it on to several others, they will contribute to spreading it wide just as the second wave of the 1918 virus spread - a multiplication of ten times the first wave that we have just experienced.

All the effort that has been taken to slow the spread and flatten the curve, will have been wasted, and we will get the same effect as if we had just not bothered to take any precautions and just left it to rampage straightand man ICU beds and equipment, care for and treat the worst patients, or prioritise the manning of essential services. We'll just need to dig lots of mass graves ready to fork-lift the bodies into, including those who starve without suppplies getting to them.

I'm so sick of hearing people say 'I'll take my chances'! You'll also be taking risks - with other people's lives, won't you?

No, I certainly would not be happy.
I’ll take my chances, if necessary.

Sparklefizz there isn’t much point in staying in then if it can come in anyway. Except that we’ve been dealing with everything coming in as per the instructions to either wash or leave for 72 hours.

I ll be the one in danger not you as you ll still be in your house

So you agree you may be in danger of contracting the virus.

As you've been told you may well be asymptomatic. You could be carrying the virus.

Who do you think will help you if you get severe symptoms, ( quite possible) and need medical care?

My son and niece, that's who. And thousands of other medical staff from ambulance crews, nurses, doctors, cleaners etc etc. And they will then be in danger thanks to you.

Many of these people have young families and every day go to work in hospitals dealing with people who have been infected by others

I don't want to be stuck in for months. I want to see my grandchildren.

But I have been told heartbreaking stories of care in ICU with people at end of life and young nurses holding hands of the dying.

I think we have to look beyond ourselves at this time

I concur with Annecan.
This is not a communist state and I will not stay indoors for 12 months. If a lot of people are happy to never go out again that’s their choice but I still have some living left to do and it’s not hunkered down in some bunker.

Because of the medication DH is on we’re shielding. DH also gets very depressed in the dark of late autumn and winter. If we have to continue shielding - ie not going out past the front gate - ... Well, we simply can’t do it.

We’ll manage maybe another couple of months but after that we will go out. We’ll avoid people, won’t go into shops or go to shows or anywhere where there’s crowds. But we will go out.

BlueSky It could be on shopping or prescriptions/medicines or post - any items that come into your house.

janeainsworth
Thank you so much.

I've asked this before how can a person who's been self isolating since even before all this started be infected? We haven't been shopping or near anybody so is the virus floating in the air we breath?

I cannot believe how anyone can passively accept restrictions on the over 70s using words like will be allowed out!
Are we in a communist state
Will we be compelled to paint a mark on our heads?
Most people over 70 are aware of the risks and are conscious of not putting a burden on care
But I for one would resent and abhor orders to lock away for 12 months
And before the usual suspects on here tell me how selfish I am for not considering others, that is NOT what I am saying

Maddy thinking of you. I hope your family all stay safe

I’ll be the one in danger not you as you’ll still be in your house

Janeainsworth is right. I hope none of you who are saying you’ll go out and won’t stay locked down, I hope none of you will have the hypocrisy to stand clapping on Thursday nights.
Last weekend my son in law, a GP, visited nine care homes. Some of the patients had Covid19. He is putting himself at risk, and his three small children at risk of possibly, heaven forbid, of losing their Daddy. Why would you who are safe risk going out and contacting Covid19 and spreading it. What doesn’t anyone understand about the fact that if you don’t have symptoms you could be a symptomatic or be incubating the disease. In either case you’ll be highly infective to others. Don’t think of yourselves, think of the children who may end up without a parent because of your selfishness.

how are we putting others in danger if we don’t have symptoms
Bluebelle you can transmit the disease in the few days between contracting it yourself, and the point at which you become symptomatic.
If you develop symptoms, you are much more likely to require hospitalisation than a younger person. You are then putting the staff who have to care for you in danger.

I think it's just a touch hypocritical to stand outside your door on a Thursday clapping and cheering for NHS staff if you're then going to compromise their safety by not complying with the guidance.