So, GN members, what do you think of this!

Last week on an itv interview Matt Hancock said the reason no one was tested on arrival at Heathrow is because the numbers are so low now. Apparently they have dropped to 15,000 A DAY. These are from all the hot spots too. I dont think 105,000 a week is a low number. I've not left the house in weeks but it makes stay home a nonsense.

Totally agree Theoddbird

ArmyNanny, don't care that you were not the originator. Thank you SO MUCH for sharing this. I laughed consistently at every single 'rule'. Priceless. Only wish I still had a printer whereupon I would circulate this to my nearest and dearest. I want them all to be able to have any laugh that's going. Again... thank you for taking the time to retell this. Quite wonderful for me. My highspot of the day, in fact.

It's probably the same information as the one as I was thinking of, SirChenjin but in a different format.

Thank you, it is worth looking at.
However, some people still don't seem to grasp it although most of our neighbours do.

Surely what is wrong is that someone who works in a care home is going to her daughter's house to take care of the family. Won't this neighbour of yours be at massively high risk of infection?
But all the same - there is nothing you can do to change other people's behaviour. As I said on another thread yesterday, step away from the curtains and leave them to their own lives.

Very wrong , I despair

It's very hard to not be able to visit a new grandchild. I feel cheated out of precious time with mine. However, I hope to have years to spend with her, if I take the proper precautions now.

As for going and visiting older children, that's very risky too. Not only could they pass it to you, and you pass it to others, but you could infect them. There is evidence in the USA that kids are being more badly affected than previously thought. It isn't just the mortality rate but the long term effects on their health. Writers of the report say the USA will need to invest more in paediatric care as a result of the virus. No doubt that applies here.

There is also the question of reporting the neighbours. I haven't done it but I don't know that it is wrong. People compare this crisis to World War Two. I get the impression that a lot of snitching went on during the war. Maybe it is necessary, if people won't do the right thing.

Another thought, maybe they think they love their families so much that they can't bear to not see them. I love my family enough to want them safe and protected at their homes

Wrong. But people don't get it. I haven't seen my family at all during this and its almost torture driving past my daughter and grandchildren house on my way to work. But we're all being good and understand why we're doing it. We all miss each other and have had plenty of video calls. Sometimes it's so hard not to see them, but if we all popped into to see our families they'd be no social distancing

Thank you Armynanny! Excellent words of wisdom... In Australia anyone breaching the quarantine regulations is fined (over $1000) by the police and it is a common occurrence, and acceptable, for neighbours to contact the police to report infringements of the restriction regulations. There are, inevitably, some areas of confusion (particularly over schools opening) but generally speaking the States and Territories are all pulling together.

It is wrong. A neighbour who went into labour had to go to hospital by herself as her partner had to stay at home to look after the other children. It is frustrating when you see other people visiting when you are doing as the government ask. I would so love to see my grandchildren but know staying away iis the right thing.

Crass stupidity

My daughter is due to give birth in a couple of weeks. She's been strongly advised not to allow anyone into the house when she brings the baby home. Midwives and health visitors will not visit, either. This is to protect the vulnerable newborn from the virus. So I can't go to help her this time. It's very disappointing but we won't put our new addition at risk.

I don't think she should even be going to look after the grandchildren. For a start she works in a place where she could easily pick up the virus. And secondly households should not mix. If, by chance, she has the virus but is not showing symptoms yet, she could possible pass it on to so many people... When are people going to get this through their thick heads...

ican it would have been better if they’d phoned ahead and spoken to the store before they arrived and out the manager in a very difficult position. The stores are putting the clear guidelines in place and the manager was only doing their job.

I'm seriously concerned for the mental health of my closest friend ( also my neighbour) and one other neighbour.
My friend has turned so nasty about everyone, and I mean everyone. She couldn't even say something nice about Captain Tom, only wanting to know how he could afford such a large garden etc etc. ?
She phones me every time another neighbour gets a food delivery from her daughter ( that neighbour is 80 and vulnerable)
The puzzlingly thing is: she is a deeeply religious person and yet is seeing no good in anything at the moment ?
I've given up trying to convince another neighbour ( by phone) that it's perfectly ok to walk down the road to get her paper.

Armynanny, that is hilarious but also exactly why people are confused or maybe even look like they are breaking the rules. It is also human nature to interpret things to suit yourselves and justify what you are doing. If you seriously think people are flouting the rules, my advice for what it is worth is to complete the form to notify the police: www.police.uk/tua/tell-us-about/c19/tell-us-about-possible-breach-coronavirus-measures/
I wouldn't confront anybody about their misdemeanours because you could be putting yourself at risk; tempers might be very frayed at the moment.
My son was taken to task the other day about taking his wife and son shopping with him the other day. My DIL can't cope with my autistic DGS without my son around, she doesn't drive and can't shop by herself due to anxiety. My son can't manage the shopping with his autistic son by himself and they can't get delivery slots. By sitting their son in a trolley and one of them keeping him occupied, the other can select things off the shelves. Do they want to put themselves at risk? No. Do they want to put anyone else at risk? No. In between shopping and juggling with said child, they are also trying to work at home as they are key workers in one of the emergency services where the information they provide is critical at the moment. The last thing they needed was the Manager of a store very publicly shaming them and refusing to listen when they tried to explain. He did eventually let them in but my very law abiding DIL was mortified and her anxiety went through the roof.

So, so many stories like this - they are so, so wrong. We would alll like to visit our loved ones but can't - something should be done.

phoenix. You can't get through to everyone. I'm scared for the baby. We must just pray...

Everything SirChenjin has said is spot on! I cannot understand how some posters are not able to comprehend this.

This lockdown will go on much longer if some people keep visiting others and mixing households! It is not rocket science to see that!

People just do not seem to understand. The local radio stations in the North have all gone into one at night for the past few weeks. More of a talk show with people ringing in with their questions, complaints etc,

It really is amazing the things that people are still doing and when the presenter tells them that is wrong most of them can't understand or the odd one thinks it doesn't apply to him...Last night a man phoned in to thank his new neighbour for her kindness. During the course of this conversation he mentioned how nice it was to see the children out playing in the street now that there so few cars! The presenter asked was it the children from next door? Oh no it's several children from different houses . The presenter very politely explained that this was wrong, the children from the same family can play together but should not mix with other children even relations. The caller was very surprised, he said well they're only children the reply was this virus is does not respect age.

Is it the one I posted yesterday Callistemon?

And into a care home
Where is that other chart, showing how one person can infect thousands?

I can't do a link on this device. Perhaps that should be my task for today.

They are mixing households - that is the issue Riggie. Three times the chance of passing on the virus - one of them could be asymptomatic and transmit the virus unknowingly to the other household, who then could unknowingly transmit to another household if they mix with others and so on and on and on and on...

Why is this so hard for people to understand? I genuinely don’t get it.

Technology has made it possible to make contact with one another without physically being there. How then do those like myself manage to visit my family and they visit me, twenty four seven, when they live four thousand miles away? I can be in my family's home , they mine, at the touch of a button so why put lives at risk as some are doing with a 'must go visit and give my GC a kiss and cuddle..
We cannot hope to eliminate this virus when people are blatantly going against advice to satisfy their own selfish needs. What's wrong with using the phone if what I have commented on 'not for everyone'The longer the me, me me in our society continue with their actions the longer it will take for us all to get back to life before 'corona'