Vegans?

For me being vegetarian is a moral choice because I believe killing animals is wrong and unnecessary in our society.

However some people have to hunt and fish in order to survive. "Alaska" is an interesting film on Netflix about indigenous people in remote parts of Alaska.They eat whale, caribou, fox, whale, seal and seafood in order to live.

Regarding "humane killing" if you have time you might like to take a gander at freefromharm.org Just type humane slaughter into the search box. It's really worth reading.

Love to meet you dj, my sister lives in Esh x

"Faye you are loading all the old insults you got when young onto today's climate of feeling around vegetarianism and veganism.That doesn't exist today, many people choose that food and many food outlets and shops cater to it."

I am just keen to find out what places people on here meet up at where today's climate is okay for vegans.
Quiche is not vegan. Soup is not necessarily vegan. You said the cafe was vegetarian. If it sells fish pie, it isn't, is it?
Don't worry, Oxford is too far away, so you won't have to meet me.

durhamjen......... what is going on with you?Why are you keen to know what you could have for lunch at the Ashmolean cafe? Are you coming to a meet up here?
I and others have had the salad and vegetarian quiche or the soup and bread.The cafe is quite different from the restaurant there, and I have no knowledge about it's fish pie ( probably very nice though.)

So what is vegan at the Ashmolean?

You'd better tell them to change their menu then. Fish pie?
Has it changed lately?

Sadly I don't, was there last week for the Literature Festival. Unless I got a day return, it's not that far from Birmingham by train!

Or you Elrel do you live near enough?

Not that it has a great range ( of anything) it's very limited, cakes and scones, sandwiches and soups.If we met for a meal and you were joining us durhamjen we would go to St Mary's Church cafe or The Nosebag.Will you be coming down to a meet up btw?

Hang on please! The cafe in the basement where we meet in the Ashmolean is vegetarian. The restaurant on the upper floor isn't.
Since I live near and go often I think that I know.

Really, roses?
Just proving you have no idea what vegetarian means.
Beef? Pollock?

Roses- really? The restaurant isn't.

There are many in Oxford City Centre, but that is the one that we meet in.

The GN meet up in Oxford is in the Ashmolean cafe, it's all vegetarian.

That's funny, Iam64.
You felt bad about calling me hectoring, but felt better when I responded to being called hectoring.
No irony there, then.

Manchester was always a good place vegans. Any vegetarian cafe/restaurant knows about vegans. I really should go and visit my granddaughter who lives in Salford.

However, what I was asking about was all the meet-ups that happen on GN. Do any of those places cater for vegans?

Have you ever been to a pub in Glossop called the Globe?
It's vegan but they don't necessarily say so on the menu.
I know it's a ride out from Manchester, but I don't know which side of Manchester you are.

Faye, it wasn't Espee who made the hectoring comment, it was me. I felt a bit bad about making the comment until I saw the response, which was accused me of not caring (about animal welfare) and making comments that were 'anything to attack me on'. I responded by saying neither of those comments were true. It's a real pity that such an important subject can't be discussed politely and I'm sorry that my comment seems to have contributed to that.

Ive been vegeterian for 34yrs.have had to endure lots of sarcastic/rude/ignorant comments at times...its just a personal choice.there is a farm at the end of my garden.Am at the moment watching new lambs playing.interacting with each other.....I also see cows mourn&cry out for weeks when their calves are taken....breaks my heart...but thats just me....you do and eat what you like....
....the methane now...from FAR too many cattle...is causing huge problems in the ozone layer.....................................

www.earthcafe.co
www.8thday.coop
www.sanskrutirestaurant.co.uk
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vrevmcr.co.uk
www.teatimecollective.co.uk

These are just 6 of the 30 vegan cafe/restaurants near me. Vegan and vegetarian cafes, restaurants and supermarkets and very easily accessible around here, no bother at all.

I would be interested to know which of the places you sometimes meet up at cater for vegans. Are there any?

Phoenix, Are you intending to rise from the ashes? (You can keep your hard hat on )

Faye, you give your reason for saying that I have been hectoring and disapproving towards Durhamjen is that I accused her of being hectoring and disapproving. At no point have I stated that on this thread. I have read all my comments twice to confirm this. May I suggest that you re-read my posts and then get back to apologise for your lies.
I am laid back about people's dietary peculiarities, (each to his own in my view) and do not wish to descend to your playground type arguments. I am a grown up.
Unfortunately you too are coming across as defensive and aggressive on here and both of you reinforce the stereotypical view of vegans with behaviour which turns so many people against you.
Live your life according to your beliefs, just stop preaching to everyone else.

Faye I am not sure I know what I have said that you disagree with. I posted that SOME vegans/vegetarians have an air of superior disapproval. You posted that meat-eaters can be very superior. Yes, some can, so we are both right. Nothing to disagee about. You have noticed the meat-eaters, I have noticed the non-meat-eaters, that is all.

I imagine phoenix is keeping her head down