We have 4 SGC, no natural ones and probably never. Two of the SGC were quite young, 3 and 5, (now 14 and 15) so we've known them most of their lives and love them dearly, they live with our Daughter and their dad and you would never know they were not our daughters natural children, SGC number was about 12 and SGC number 4 would have been 16 when our daughter met their dad. SGC number 3 was marched around to our house by his mum at the age of 13 and presented to me with his worldly belongings in a black plastic bag as his mum didn't want him anymore (her words) as were the two youngest, they were thrown out last year for the same reason, aged 13 and 15 now. Eldest SGD has nothing to with my daughters side. We are lucky enough to have a really healthy relationship with the three youngest children and have even made provision in our wills for the. We have been lucky that their dad and our daughter have been do tolerant over the years and always there for the children. Like not May this go on. So, don't despair patients, understanding and time may be all you need. Good luck all us SGPs.