To think this is grooming in plain sight

I think the sex show people are going to have to abandon this.

Now the DM has got their teeth into it the outrage is through the roof.

I'd never go. Wouldn't want to take the GC. I think they'd prefer the likes of Spiderman or Encanto.

My son had a friend who would come to play. Primary School age. She asked my son if we were going to take our clothes off. Her parents/grandparents would wander round naked all the time. She told my son she hated it and didn't want to look. Quite sad really.

We didn't walk around naked when my children were young. Maybe we're prudes but it wouldn't have entered my head. All of them have turned out perfectly fine. They all have managed to get partners and live their lives.

Thanks for the clip MissAdventure I found it reassuring.

The children who remain as "innocents for as long as possible" are potentially the most vulnerable to abuse.

What I have read about this show, that has caused so much alarm to many, tells me that the company want youngsters to feel comfortable about sex, not see it as rude and to know it should be pleasurable AND that nobody should do anything or be made to do anything that they, or others, do not want to do.
That seems a healthy attitude.

As I said before whether that's what the performance actually does I do not know. I have not seen it!

youtu.be/NIpHhdJZCGg

This is a brief explanation by the sex show people.

They have a podcast aimed at older children.

This is long overdue in my opinion. Our relationships have been distorted by pornography for too long.

I've also seen some blurb of theirs saying that there is to be a slightly different show made more for younger audiences.
Younger than 5, I wonder, or have they changed their minds and just lowered the age on the original show?

MissAdventure

I don't think you're doing anything groundbreaking with your grandson, Gaga.
It sounds very much the same as most parents, I'm sure.

We aren't all covering the piano legs and swooning away with smelling salts at a whisper of the word sex.

I didn't imply you were. And of course it's just generally sensible. There is the school of thought on here though that children shouldn't be exposed to any sexual knowledge, 'innocent as long as possible'.

I think the main suspicious thing about this theatre production is that there is no actual information about what the content is. It could well be fine. But if it is, why are they being so secretive about it?

Must remember to delete my search history!

I have been looking for a clip of the actual show, but it has been removed from YouTube for violating their terms and conditions.

Dickens has said it all so well and I agree. This production is far too much far too soon. If people were giving children access to material anywhere else there would be very serious consequences! Of course children need to know about inappropriate touching etc, Children learn about sexuality, gender identity and homosexuality as they gradually develop their minds. They learn in their own time especially for instance if they have family members who are gay / transgender. We have just attended the wedding of two gay men , all our grandchildren were there , the youngest were ages 10, six and four..
It was a very happy occasion and our youngest family members saw what love really is ! IMO that us how children should learn and accept. I despair at what is happening on the internet , videos explaining to children how to self harm or take their own lives . Society must remember that just like their physical bodies , minds/ brains are immature and as such need protection from information they are unable to process.
As for the theatre production - grooming , I think so!
Not happy with the name of the company either!!

M0nica There was a relatively new set of guidance on Relationship & Sex Education issued by the DfE in response to the report about sexual harassment & peer on peer abuse in schools. Every school has had to review its policies about Equalities, PHSE and RSE in light of the report.

The guidance does recognise that parents are a child's first teacher and do need to be responsible for teaching them about sex...but just look at the threads on here about unprotected sex, unwanted pregnancies attitudes to women, access to porn etc etc. & it is clear
many haven't done a perfect job in the sex ed department so far!

Speak for yourself Missadventure my piano legs are covered at all times.

I don't think you're doing anything groundbreaking with your grandson, Gaga.
It sounds very much the same as most parents, I'm sure.

We aren't all covering the piano legs and swooning away with smelling salts at a whisper of the word sex.

I have no idea if its appropriate or not but some of it is raising some concerns for me. Its good to ask questions about safeguarding, although perhaps not in the way people are doing on their twitter!

The YouTube comments on their explanatory video about this "fun stuff" arent very inclusive, I have to say.

the more we tell our children about sex, the more tempted they will be. “But there’s so much research that shows the complete opposite,”

I agree with this bit. I took the approach of information at an early age with my DD and she's following it with DGS. For him, sexual knowledge is no different to learning about digestion, or his feet growing bigger. Seeds in his testicles held his interest for about 5 minutes. No big deal at all.

The argument against sex education for younger ages has repeatedly been that education is indoctrination: the more we tell our children about sex, the more tempted they will be

This a very dated argument that I have not heard for a long time. The general feeling is now that the best way for children to learn about sex, is from their parents and more and more parents agree with that and are doing that.

The more general argument about caution in primary school is that the range of existing knowledge or understanding about sex in children under 11 can range from none at all, to, too knowledgeable and this means some teaching could do positive harm to some children.

Right thats really not very long is it. And the comments on their Twitter feed show many people raising concerns (not in the most approriate way). I am astounded they are letting the Twitter comments stand to be honest but perhaps they expected that kind of response.

exploring names and functions, boundaries, consent, pleasure, queerness, sex, gender and relationships. Using real life bodies, personal stories, songs and movement,

A little excerpt of the shows aims.
All this stuff must be the kind of things most 5 year olds need educating in, since when?

The daily mail has taken up the story too, quoting mumsnet users.

I just googled it and found the tour dates..which began in March.

Where is the info that it has been touring for sone time. I am not doubting you I just cant see that. I can see info that they havent finalised the cast yet.

It seems this show has been touring for a while... don't think the content can be a dreadful & inappropriate as some fear or it would have been closed down by now!
Here is a quote by one of the people involved in developing the production.

'The argument against sex education for younger ages has repeatedly been that education is indoctrination: the more we tell our children about sex, the more tempted they will be. “But there’s so much research that shows the complete opposite,” Dale-Jones says. Avoiding conversations about our bodies and how we use them, she suggests, is far more dangerous. “Knowing your body is about knowing your rights. The more we know, the more we can protect ourselves and each other.” Children aren’t anxious about the idea of the show, she insists. “It’s the older people who feel discomfort in something that’s challenging their preconceptions.”

I have not seen the show so no more knowledge than anyone else about its actual content but having written school policies & curriculum for, & taught, sex & relationship education to primary aged children I don't think anything I have read about it suggests it is inappropriate or dangerous. I would always want to see it before I took a younger child to be reassured it was appropriate &
so I was prepared for the inevitable questions afterwards!

I find it totally wrong" Scary that there are parents that think it's ok.