In praise Of Prince Harry & Prince William(please read)

Thank you for this thread Bridgeit. I've never taken much notice of anything that happens within the royal family. However, I am genuinely very disappointed that it has shown some people to be so spiteful and judgemental. It saddens me that I live amongst such people. They really have shown their true colours. Even when the whole thing seems to be resolved, they can't help having a "dig".

Thankyou Growstuff, your post this morning was like a light shinning in the dark.

Exactly growstuff, me too. And I should add that I've been very impressed with the amazing knowledge exhibited by gransnetters - so many appear to have a hot line to the inner workings of the senior and junior members of the RF and their staff, and know exactly what each member is feeling and thinking.

Paddyann is right

whats so BRAVE about leaving with a safety net and a continuing stream of funding

It's weird I'd get rid of the RF and yet I have more sympathy for H&M than any of the so called royalists. I thought Harry's speech was heartfelt and he wanted a way out which would have let him keep some of his roles. There have been other people speaking about what a loss he will be. It seems to me that the establishment which got rid of the D of Windsor is still alive and well and operating at some secret level to make sure the RF don't change. And that Her Maj would have allowed a change if she could have found a way around the obstacles.

I am sure you do trisher

I think Harry is doing the right thing to protect his marriage. I have no doubt that if he insisted they stay in England and Meghan try to adapt to the protocols and restrictions of Royal life she would end up running for the hills. She's too independent and free spirited for that lifestyle.

This way there is some chance of the marriage surviving, and the Queen has obviously been careful to leave the door open for Harry should things not work out.

*He won’t , but if he did the next in line is George, I don’t think
William can do a thing about this.*

Not sure, when Edward VIII abdicated he renounced the title for him and 'my heirs and successors', maybe William could renounce it on behalf of his children too.

But people do find happiness at the expense of others though!
Charles and Camilla ?

Was it at the expense of others ? Both their partners had affairs

William cannot renounced it on behalf of his children.

Edward didn’t have children when he abdicated, who knows
what would have happened if he did later have a child.

9.00 pm.ITV, secrets of the Royals

Nothing we haven't already heard/seen.

Goodness knows why they call it 'Secrets'

Quite agree OP. I wish them well.

Callistemon Well said. That was exactly my thought. Harry needed an escape and she provided it. I don't think that it was their intention when they married and she gave it a good try but I don't see how they could carry on as it was.
I hope it works out for them.
Whatever they do they are being criticised so they just have to plough on.

Exactly Jaycee5, nothing they do is acceptable to some, so here's hoping they can go on together and build a better life.

It seems those who praise the couple are republicans

Jaycee5

I don’t think she’s given it a good try in all honesty, they haven’t been married two years. I’m sure it hasn’t helped having a baby straightaway. She needed more time to learn the ropes before becoming a mother maybe.

I wish strength and fortitude to Harry as he tries to make gutter journalism disappear. This would be a great moral progress. The media are too powerful to be owned by immoral persons.

He will not make the journalists disappear, he has left himself
more exposed , now has the Canadian and American media to
deal with.

True indeed Anniebach. Harry and Meghan have a huge legal fight on their hands. If they don't win at least they will have drawn public attention to the horrible libel that gets printed by the sensationalist press, and all to make money out of human misery.
H and M are not miserable and have much to feel joyful about and it takes strong people to combat something entrenched like the gutter press.

What has the British press printed that is libellous *Alexa ?

At age 35 HMQ Elizabeth had been on the throne almost 10 years so she wins. I’m not sure Harry or Williams achievements can compare with that.

I’m not a royalist but I think PH and his wife should have shown the Queen more respect. Releasing a statement announcing that they will collaborate with the Queen and forcing her into public action was, in my view, disrespectful and with illusions of grandeur.

Her actions and statement were perfectly delivered and leave the door open for Harry.

I believe Meghan decided she was not returning to the UK and didn’t even put up a united front with Harry.

I would never leave my husband to face life changing decisions and / or difficult talks on his own. While she could not be part of the actual talks and decision making, she could have been at home with him and their son to offer support and comfort. However by leaving Archie in Canada she clearly had no intention of staying.

Bringing Archie home to spend time with his grandparents and cousins etc before leaving the UK together as a family would have demonstrated a more united front, a plan, a new beginning.

As it happened it looks more like Meghan has flounced from the UK and left Harry trailing behind to mop up the mess and catch up with her.

Harry has lost one complaint against The Mail on Sunday

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/30/prince-harry-loses-mail-on-sunday-complaint-over-sedated-wildlife-photos

All those things mentioned in the OP are things young men often enjoy doing. Bit of a shame he walked out on the everyday boring old slog.

Disappointing IMO, but it's his life.

(Obviously not the losing his mother thing. But perhaps time to let that go?