To Believe the British Girl in Cyprus Version of Events

I read the Camilla Long article in the ST too, and thought she made some good points.

Increasingly, I hope, the tide of opinion is turning in the young woman's favour as highlighted by the Camilla Long article, a doctor who examined her after the attack said the bruising sustained shows how she had been restrained. It also seems to be the case that a fair proportion of Israeli women are disgusted by the way these young men have descended into the mire by such appalling behaviour. It is good to know that they show a sense of sisterhood and fair play trumping any misplaced bruised national pride or the feeling that race, religion or ethnicity is somehow sacrasanct in covering up wrong. I believe a delegation is flying to Cyprus on Tuesday when sentencing is due to take place, to show solidarity with the young woman.

I have signed the Petition
I believe the girl.

Davidhs

can't you talk to your nephews?
As an uncle and positive role model.

They could be the "sons you always wanted as you are a man"
why didn't their parents challenge their behaviour?
It is so sad to see young men behave so badly towards women.
It was hoped that blatant sexism was going to disappear.

Camilla Long's article in today's Sunday Times about this story in Cyprus is very good.

Ybnb great post.

Signed.

Will sign the petition.

I am concerned about the calls to boycott Cyprus as a holiday destination as it is not the large hotels/resorts that will suffer but the local communities when people lose their jobs and have no income to support families and spend in their communities.

Thanks trisher. Signed and shared.

Yehbutnot. LOL, I could blame the predictive text but the phone rang, distractions!,

Thank you for the link trisher, I have signed.

Perhaps the fact that you always wanted sons made it easier?

I had 3 lovely daughters who let [sic] home a 18 and came back 3 good men

May I take this opportunity David to congratulate you on your laid back attitude to your daughters’ gender transition. Many parents would have struggled with just one child transitioning, three must have been hard.

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thanks trisher, signed and shared

Signed.

There's a peition to drop all charges against her please sign.
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Frustrated yes but nothing I can do about it, they are who they are, of course as a man I wanted sons but I the event I had 3 lovely daughters who let home a 18 and came back 3 good men. That wasn’t my doing but probably my wife gave them a good briefing what to look for in a man.

You must feel very ashamed of your nephews David. You are brave to admit that.

Thank goodness not all young men are like them.

is it known when the girl was charged with lying

Well before the court date as the case kept being adjourned by the judge as he had important cases to hear, such as petty theft etc.

However, she was innocent until proved guilty so the men should not have been allowed back to Israel at that point.

I am hopeless at links but - I looked at the DM on line this morning. They report that public opinion and much of the media has turned against the young men in this case. The DM report is detailed and my reading of it does suggest this young woman is telling the truth.

Young men, my brother has 4 sons, they were a nightmare as kids in their 40s they are still a nightmare their attitude to women is close to zero. Contrast that to my kids, 3 girls they went out and found husbands that would stay with them, they are all happy and settled with families, they get on with each other too.

I see a lot of young men just like my brothers sons, over the years they have had girlfriends who I know are “nice” but they have treated them like dirt. My brother and his wife are just a normal couple, the boys got into the laddish culture as teens and never came out.

No Galaxy, it’s not working (sorry for rather late response, had to go out to see my elderly mother.) I think all the points you raise are pertinent Galaxy, but with those things still not really being dealt with, I still think parents need to give their girls strategies to help them remain safe. Of course, it won’t protect every girl, but if it protects just one, it’s worth it.
When ours were teenagers, DH would tell them to ring him for a lift home, whatever the time, both our boys and our girl. He’d often get up out of bed and go to bring them home at two in the morning. I’ve no idea how they managed when they were at university, but we hoped to have given them the tools to avoid attack.
This poor girl in Cyprus has really suffered. Purplepatch is right, double standards are alive and well, particularly in more paternalistic societies. The men were sent home, and she has been called a liar, a whore, and she’s been insulted and punished. The judge has behaved appallingly in my opinion, he has humiliated her and treated her despicably. It’s high time our diplomatic services got her home.

I agree, it seems logical.

Is it known when the girl was charged with lying?

The above seems logical to me.