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Eugenie’s wedding

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Cambia Sat 18-Aug-18 18:23:41

AIBU to think that we should not have to pay the security costs for Eugenie’s wedding? Apparently she carries out no royal duties at all. I read that the money will come from local councils that apparently cannot afford money for car for the elderly, potholes etc etc. Really do feel that that particular branch of the Royal Family are not particularly good value and that is putting it very politely!

Diana54 Tue 21-Aug-18 11:31:18

Of course, if we need to spend £2M to protect the public so be it.
But Daddy should have said a firm NO, then they would just have rough it in the grounds at Windsor.

OldMeg Tue 21-Aug-18 11:30:10

I’m off shopping but that will allow for lots of suitable candidates to be nominated!

Jalima1108 Tue 21-Aug-18 11:29:31

Perhaps we could emulate some of these countries?

integritas360.org/2016/07/10-most-corrupt-world-leaders/

OldMeg Tue 21-Aug-18 11:28:18

I didn’t SAY Gilly I ASKED that was the ? sign means!

OldMeg Tue 21-Aug-18 11:27:14

Let’s have some names thrown into the pot please Gilly

gillybob Tue 21-Aug-18 11:27:13

Who said elected for life ?

I ( and plenty like me) do not respect the rf.

There are plenty palaces , castles owned by the country that the elected figure head could live in . Wouldn’t allow palaces and massive incomes for their grown up offspring and their offspring and their offspring ........forcever and ever .

Jalima1108 Tue 21-Aug-18 11:27:00

And is this person elected for life?
Even if not, some of them, once elected, seem to change the rules to enable them to stay as Head of State for life.

What powers would they have?
At least our present Head of State, although expressing views in private to her PM, has to remain politically neutral. The position is as Ceremonial Head of State.

OldMeg Tue 21-Aug-18 11:26:44

And women it would seem!

OldMeg Tue 21-Aug-18 11:26:29

And Aung San Suu Kyi!

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always ‘bad’ men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority.

OldMeg Tue 21-Aug-18 11:23:38

And is this person elected for life?
What duties would he or she carry out?
Where would their official residence be?
What monies would be allocated to them and what security would they need?

I think you will find that Trump appealed to ‘ordinary people’.

Jalima1108 Tue 21-Aug-18 11:23:37

Definitely Someone respected by the ordinary people

I'm trying to think of someone who could be more respected than The Queen and having great difficulty

gillybob Tue 21-Aug-18 11:19:13

Oh I do OldMeg thank you for asking . An elected figurehead . Chosen by the people on his or her merit and not as an accident of birth . Perhaps an ex politician, perhaps not ? Definitely Someone respected by the ordinary people .

GeriaticBird Tue 21-Aug-18 11:12:43

Now that I would stand in the rain to see batty!

OldMeg Tue 21-Aug-18 11:12:26

And gillybob what would you put in place of the Royal Family? Perhaps you have some positive ideas that would be worth sharing with us.

oldbatty Tue 21-Aug-18 11:08:00

Maybe she could morph into a sort of female Bear Grylls after the nuclear holocaust?

GeriaticBird Tue 21-Aug-18 11:03:35

Eugenie is ninth in line of succession and as such deserves a modicum of support and an enjoyable wedding day.

But why? Because of an anachronistic system and an accident of birth? She is no more deserving than anyone else imo. It would take something of the magnitude of a nuclear holocaust to give her any significance in the monarchy.

gillybob Tue 21-Aug-18 10:57:44

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/royal-wedding-family-how-much-uk-economy-benefits-cost-meghan-markle-expense-a8345436.html

Interesting piece discussing the “ actual” cost of the rf as opposed to the figure that is regularly fed to us.

Candelle Tue 21-Aug-18 10:53:16

The British press take great delight in whipping up stories regarding members of the royal family - and we lap it all up!

I think Eugenie has been a little unwise to emulate Harry's wedding as surely something different would have been more sensible. However, perhaps the poor girl has been dreaming of an open-carriage ride post-nuptials, for most of her life but Harry whipped in first, so what is she to do?!

I can't quite equate a quick trip around Windsor to a £2 million security bill (presumably the chapel and castle are always under scrutiny?) but agree that this cost should not be borne directly by local taxpayers (although the local community will benefit from extra souvenir/restaurant) trade.

Can you imagine if the crowd (which I am sure will be smaller than for Harry's wedding) should be attacked in any way, and there had been little security in place? There would be uproar. Perhaps £2 million from the public purse is worth the safety of our citizens.....? It does not seem fair to me for Eugenie's father to have to bear the full cost of protecting the public.

I do wish the British press (where I came in!) would stop inflaming the 'have' and 'have not' mentality. Eugenie is ninth in line of succession and as such deserves a modicum of support and an enjoyable wedding day.

Jalima1108 Tue 21-Aug-18 10:49:49

There is a lot of misunderstanding of how the office of a Head of State works.
You can explain endlessly, Anniebach
There is no civil list , it changed a few years ago.
but somehow, some people do not want to know.

Jalima1108 Tue 21-Aug-18 10:47:14

sarahellenwhitney Mon 20-Aug-18 13:09:20

I think there's been a misunderstanding here - I didn't mean funding for security - obviously; what I meant was funding for the RF's private lives is not provided by the taxpayer - the taxpayer provides the funds for them for the jobs they do and the security involved as a consequence of this, HM as Head of State and all the expenses that involves and the others of the RF who carry out duties on her behalf as requested by the public and required by the office of the Head of State.

I do think that the carriage ride resulting in extra security costs is a mistake.

auntybee Tue 21-Aug-18 10:45:03

I think it fair to say that the volume of messages on this ‘thread’ and the general consensus of opinion says everything.........!

Jalima1108 Tue 21-Aug-18 10:42:16

Camilla can be Mrs King when Charles becomes king
I only just saw that Anniebach grin

oldbatty Tue 21-Aug-18 10:34:51

Some modernisation certainly is needed.

Anniebach Tue 21-Aug-18 10:31:25

There is no civil list , it changed a few years ago.

Grannyart234 Tue 21-Aug-18 10:26:37

This wedding should be confined to Windsor Castle and any costs met by the Royal Family themselves.
The Civil List needs severe pruning perhaps they should be paid a fee for each appearance they make! That would take the Yorks out of the equation as they don't contribute much at all. The Sovereign the Heir and the Spare should be covered and the rest should be funded by the R F or earn their own living.