Kids having kids & unproteced sex

Unfortunately a woman who cannot be trusted to look after the poor and oppressed. They would think her worse than a man.

WTH do suffragettes have to do with teenage pregnancies?

I expect they would be highly pleased that a woman had made it to PM.

Don't we need more children to be born to pay tax for us grans to spend on our old age pensions and care homes?

If many of you lived in Stockport and had access to the statistics at ou local hospital you might change your mind but to be honest I am not sure that the pregnancies are unplanned
but most of them are very young and without partners.

Actually the suffragettes- who were the women who broke windows, committed acts of arson and set bombs, were imprisoned and force fed, were much more radical than most people think. And shouldn't be confused with the suffragists who thought women should have the vote but stayed within the bounds of ordinary behaviour.
They might well be very upset that so few women are standing up for the poor and oppressed and not acting. They believed that men could not be trusted to look after the needs of women and the poor and men cared more for property than anything else (Goodness knows what they would make of Mrs May)

I will try again , that's what I was trying to say Anna about the sexualzing of woman that still goes on even in these liberated times

SORRY I meant TRISHER ohhps

Well said Anna ?

Exactly Sunseeker, it seems so sad to me that we seem to have gone backwards & let our girls down, or maybe the sexes will always be this way with each other, but I hope not .

I didn't know you could get pregnant through phone sex Ana

And You have put across what I was trying to say Rosesarered, ?

I think the suffragettes intended their fight to result in women having equal opportunities, standing and respect. Whilst I am sure they would not condemn the young women of today for their attitude to sex I think they would be disappointed to see how many of them are prepared to settle for so little.

Thank you Rosearered, I won't give up but will have to put more thought into how I word things ?

Yes thank you ,Trisher,very good reminder of how far we have come , but how much more there is to be done. I think the thing that upsets me the most, is that girls are growing up not knowing their own worth, & that the behaviour of some women in general & those inthe public eye behave as if it's all about sex, sexiness , how we look etc etc obviously not all but enough to put out the wrong message

As mentioned I think the worship of so called celebs and their chaotic lifestyles has an effect on some, and the taking away of any taboo on multiple pregnancies ( with multiple partners!) has also done it's bit.

Breakfast would solve anything.

Carry on posting norose most on GN are friendly ( some have no real social awareness though.)

Anyway, free school breakfasts will solve the problem if you vote tory, won't it?

So social media, phone sex and celebrity worship has nothing to do with it - it's all down to children 'going to school hungry' is it? What rubbish!

norose4 many of the suffragettes and women's libbers you speak of led lives that were considered outlandish and shocking by the standards of the time so perhaps they would not be quite so judgemental as you imagine about the sexual lives these young women lead. Mary Wolstencraft and her daughter might be considered as extreme examples.
Good sex education does teach girls about not giving in to pressure from anyone, men or other girls. It also teaches boys that consent must always be ensured and should never be assumed and a girl must be capable of giving such consent.
Unfortunately poverty and poor living conditions leave some girls with low expectations and a pregnancy is at least some sort of choice even if it is the wrong one.
What I think would concern the suffragettes far more about today's society is, that over 100 years after they campaigned against child poverty, and pressured Local Authorities to provide free meals for schoolchildren, as the 1906 act allowed them, we still have children going to school hungry.

Thank you Elegran, much appreciated, I admit I was not prepared for such verocity, a lesson in think before you speak or in this case post ?

I don't think riverwalk can have read your subsequent posts, norose, where you quite clearly said that you had made mistakes in your OP. It took me only a few minutes to read the thread and to see that several people responded (politely) with statistics, to which you replied explaining what had triggered your observations.

In my humble opinion, continuing to hound you with "I don't know why you can't admit you were wrong in your assertions." was arrogant overkill.

Yes Sunseeker that's exactly what I meant, you put it so well, I will consult you if ever I venture to start another thread ?

Thank you mummyofmadboys, but I'm not sure it's worth it, get enough strife as it is but thans you have made me feel a bit better?