Cross about over use of the word heroic

I've only had a brief time to dip into GN over the past couple of days and just found time to catch up now.

I spent the morning listening to two very dear people who have devoted themselves, for almost forty years, to caring for two foster sons who have schizophrenia. They have endured trials which would have stretched the saints, but persevere. Their actions over the years have, in my view, been heroic; in that they have had to be brave on many, many occasions and their actions in the face of extreme provocation have been noble and courageous. They are my role models and I admire them more than I can say.

This evening I listened to my daughter describing, through her tears, the meeting she had last week with a government minister. I know how she has pushed herself outside of her comfort zone to accept the role of ambassador for the Royal British Legion; to write letters, campaign and give media interviews. I see she appears calm and competent when in public, but I also know the cost: the sleepless nights, the anxiety, the questioning and sometimes the sheer physical grit and determination she needs. Last year, and again this year, she will take part in the 10k Commando Challenge. www.commandochallenge.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=3 She will run over the moors and through a mud filled sheep dip to raise money to support injured service personnel.
She's 4' 11" and weighs less than 7st.
Does she like to run? No.
Does she like to be covered from top to toe in mud? Most definitely not.
Are her efforts brave? Undoubtedly.
Her husband died a hero's death, literally. After his death we heard testimony that on more than one occasion he had saved lives, ultimately at the cost of his own. So, is my daughter a 'heroine'? Or simply courageous, responding bravely and positively to the lousy situation she finds herself in?

Why does he have to swim the Thames to raise money for a charity? Why give him the money? The whole concept of giving people money to do something they deep down want to do in any case, is flawed. Afterwards he has done it for Charity when in reality he has done it for himself.
I give occasionally to charity but not to people to run a mile or climb mountains. If they feel they want to do these things, let them do it, keep quiet about it and not brag about it.

Thank's girl's another year older but still feel 21 in the head. (pity about the body) Thank's again xx

I hope she hasnt' really gone glassortwo She'll be missed.

Happy birthday glamma. Glad you have had such a lovely day.

glamma happy birthday

On the subject of jangly she will be sadly missed if she has gone.

Happy Birthday, glammanana

I had a nice visit from DGS1 and lovely flower's on his way to work,no sooner had he gone then DD arrived with more flower's and prezzie's then neighbour's etc.Lunch time DH & I went to Parkgate on Wirral for lunch and then had homemade ice-cream on the prom,then nice drive to garden centre and home again to find one of our most frequent OPs has decided to leave us, I have alway's admired jangley's sense of humour and quick wittedness and will agree it is not alway's to everybody's taste maybe, but I am a scouser and have a lot of time for people who speak their mind,but sometime's we do tend to put our size ten's in at the wrong time,I know I do. (I am in no way saying she has said anything wrong it is just a general opinion)

Happy birthday glammanana ...how did you celebrate it?

Happy Birthday, glam. Hope your celebrations were fun.

Happy Birthday, glammanana, hope you had a lovely day. I too have been out today and have just logged on here, and I agree with your sentiments, please reconsider Jangly ,we are all grown ups and should be able to take a bit of heat. I t has taught me to be careful what I write.

On a lighter note girl's it;s my birthday to-day and I have been out celebrating and I get home to find all sort's of thing's going on,I also wish you to reconsider jangly as we are all experienced enough in life to know that thing's will alway's be said that we don't agree with but we have to agree to disagree in the grown up way that we do at our stage in life.

Jangly I am not surprised that you are on antidepressants as I have been thinking your posts seemed very intense lately. I hope that in real life people around you understand.
It is difficult on line, what we know about each other is like a cartoon with a few sketchy lines - we do not know the real person in 3d and full colour. And we lack the body language which adds nuances to face to face conversations.
In some ways on-line relationships are less risky than RL, because we can hide things about ourselves. In the other ways they are more risky, because we can get judged by what we write and only that, not for the whole person that we are.
I hope you will reconsider your departure - it inevitable that there is the occasional falling out on a forum like this but it should be big enough (and collectively old enough) to cope with a few ups and downs without people feeling they have to leave.

We don't want you to go, jangly. Your posts (note, I said posts, not you) can seem a bit abrupt sometimes so it just seemed a bit odd that you reacted so strongly to what everyone else thinks was gentle and friendly teasing from absent.

I'm already on fluoxetine. This isn't going to help is it?

I'm so sorry.

I'ver done it now. I've e-mailed them.

I'm too old for this. I'm sorry.

jangly;you'll SO regret it if you leave..when I said I was going to I then desperately wanted to join in with the 9/11 discussion. It's really difficult to get points across on the internet even with the use of smileys and so easy to misunderstand someone's intention when they make certain comments..that's why it's sometimes best to think carefully about what we write [oh for an edit facility as well].

I can't believe I am reading this! I have no desire to add anything to this thread; I was reading it out of interest, but it's degenerating into sounding like twelve-year olds sniping at each other in a playground! C'mon guys, you can do better than this...

I have asked to be unsubscribed.

I don't know how I got in this silly situation. It is too hurtful. I will TELL Geraldine to unsubscribe me.

If I have genuinely hurt anyone, then I am sorry.

I am NOT flouncing. Please don't call it that.

Geraldine is right, you would be missed, but do remember to read what you post before you fire it off, as though you were on the receiving end. Discussion is good, barbs are bad.

I did ask GNHQ to be banned from posting after that other thing. Geraldine tells me I would be missed. I don't know what to think.

One comment, Jess, before I go and eat my cod fillet and mash.

Jangly, you say you feel hurt by absent's "obsessed" which was not aimed at you as a serious insult. How often, I wonder, has someone been hurt by something you popped out hastily, which you did not mean as a real insult either? Some would come back to you to object, a lot would be like the little old ladies you can't imagine objecting to being sworn at, and retreated without striking a blow in their own defence. Where is the bullying there?

I have reread many of my own posts before sending them off, and deleted something I thought might be misunderstood. Have you?

And the playfulness had grown sharper claws before the recent comments.

I don't understand. Where did the bit about the soldiers come from? I've already answered that anyway.

Of course I've been less playful lately. Wouldn't you be?

I've felt like flipping Julius Ceaser with all the knives going in.